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So, using this as a sounding board of sorts:

With 2x 560 Ti 2GB in SLI (currently: stock settings), on the P8Z68 Deluxe, with 2x4GB DDR3-1600 (XMP @ 1.5V), CPU at stock or OC'd: any particular voltages possibly needed to get rid of BCCode 117s (like the BSOD Stop code 116's)? I sometimes - and it's hit and miss - see that 117 TDR code in the error logs following a BF3-induced hard-lock (with image frozen on screen).

System and overclock had previously been most certainly stable for 7 or so months, with long BF3 sessions. Then, BF3 updates and that system, with no driver or hardware changes, starts throwing these hard-locks, typically in the first few minutes.
After dropping the OC, the hard-locks seem to be delayed, allowing me to play longer, but they still come if I game long enough... which seems to require a half hour or so with every at stock.

All individual component stress tests come back clean (Furmark, OCCT, Prime95, LinX, MemTest86+, Windows Memory Diagnostic). And I've seen nothing to suggest PSU is letting me down.

From what I've read, BF3's June updates changed the way streaming is handled, increasing how often data is moved between DRAM and VRAM.

Also, I play with a 6060x1080 resolution, so I imagine texture streaming like that might be rather stressful. Though of note, I could produce hard locks (at least, in Single Player/Campaign) with a single-monitor 1080p resolution (though, I think for one of my single-monitor tests, I disabled SLI... can't recall).



On this mobo, does it sound like changing VCCIO and/or PCH voltage would be a possible solution?


I will be testing the Nvidia 285.62 WHQL driver to see if drivers are indeed causing this issue - but previously, I had been using 301.24 since it's release with perfect stability in BF3. After these problems started happening, I began trying other drivers (all 300+ releases, and 296.10) and nothing has stopped these hard-locks.
Even if 285 solves it, I don't want to think of that as a "solution." One, that will hurt Diablo III and The Witcher 2 performance, and I've been loving the 300-series releases because they fixed allow me to play games in 1080p (one monitor) on the center monitor of my surround setup, without any performance loss. Sub-300 releases would require me to disable monitors and whatnot to get a game in the center monitor with full performance. It's much easier just setting surround mode whenever I want to play any game, be it in surround resolution or just on my center monitor.

Main question I'm looking to have answered: those pesky voltages wink.gif
anything other advice/tricks are gravy
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But keyboards and mice don't work in the UEFI BIOS when connected to a USB 3.0 port.  So even if it were possible to get them to work just fine in an operating system, they still won't work in the UEFI BIOS on a USB 3.0 port.

Therefore, it's best to just avoid connecting any mice or keyboards to any USB 3.0 ports.

Or find a keyboard that was made in this century smile.gif
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  1. I'm not sure why this would happen.  Can you try other browsers?  I mean, if it only affects IE, then someone here on OCN may know what to do (unfortunately, I'd be lost).
  2. There are two reasons I can think of for it not being recognized:  the PS/2 to USB adapter may be for mice only (green adapters are for mice, purple are for keyboards).  Or, the USB port you're trying to use is USB 3.0.  That's all I can think of...


Getting back to #1, is your system overclocked at all?

I haven't noticed the issue using Firefox but then again, I haven't opened Firefox first after reboots. I'll try and report back. As for the PS/2 to USB adapter, it is the purple for keyboard kind and worked at the office where i got it from. I'm definately not pluggin it into the USB 3.0 ports. I've tried all the 2.0 ports on the back and the two in the front. One other issue I neglectedty to mention is the back button in IE. I'm using IE8 as I didn't like IE9 when it first cma out so never updated. I will go IE9 when I swap SSD's and fresh install WIN 7. So I'm on a webpage, like here on page 747 and then goto page 748. If I click the back button it often does not change the page back. I have to click it multiple times and eventually the page goes back.

BTW, i5 2500k and currently not overclocking

Thanks
Edited by squigly1 - 8/2/12 at 4:27am
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  1. I'm not sure why this would happen.  Can you try other browsers?  I mean, if it only affects IE, then someone here on OCN may know what to do (unfortunately, I'd be lost).
  2. There are two reasons I can think of for it not being recognized:  the PS/2 to USB adapter may be for mice only (green adapters are for mice, purple are for keyboards).  Or, the USB port you're trying to use is USB 3.0.  That's all I can think of...


Getting back to #1, is your system overclocked at all?



I don't mean to be rude, but just do it directly in the UEFI BIOS and stop trying to use Ai Suite II.  I mean, it's not working for you, so the best thing to do is to stop trying to use it.

There are two reasons why I don't want to do that. First I don't need to push 4.7+ghz all the time, second it won't boot into windows if I use anything higher than 46x multi no matter what voltage I use. I think I'll have to push the blck to push the last 100-200mhz. In my previous rig I use Asrock OCTuner to have different settings for different purposes, so I'm trying to do this here. If what Sticks435 said is true, then I can't do anything about it anyways.
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I haven't noticed the issue using Firefox but then again, I haven't opened Firefox first after reboots. I'll try and report back. As for the PS/2 to USB adapter, it is the purple for keyboard kind and worked at the office where i got it from. I'm definately not pluggin it into the USB 3.0 ports. I've tried all the 2.0 ports on the back and the two in the front. One other issue I neglectedty to mention is the back button in IE. I'm using IE8 as I didn't like IE9 when it first cma out so never updated. I will go IE9 when I swap SSD's and fresh install WIN 7. So I'm on a webpage, like here on page 747 and then goto page 748. If I click the back button it often does not change the page back. I have to click it multiple times and eventually the page goes back.
Thanks

 

Wow.  Then this is way over my head.  redface.gif

 

 

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There are two reasons why I don't want to do that. First I don't need to push 4.7+ghz all the time, second it won't boot into windows if I use anything higher than 46x multi no matter what voltage I use. I think I'll have to push the blck to push the last 100-200mhz. In my previous rig I use Asrock OCTuner to have different settings for different purposes, so I'm trying to do this here. If what Sticks435 said is true, then I can't do anything about it anyways.

 

Oh, then try enabling Internal PLL Overvoltage (directly in the UEFI BIOS).  This setting has to be enabled when Windows won't boot at higher multipliers.

 

If that works, then you will finally be free to stop using Ai Suite II and get back to using the UEFI BIOS directly.

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Thanks, I'll give that a try this weekend.
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Wow.  Then this is way over my head.  redface.gif



Oh, then try enabling Internal PLL Overvoltage (directly in the UEFI BIOS).  This setting has to be enabled when Windows won't boot at higher multipliers.

If that works, then you will finally be free to stop using Ai Suite II and get back to using the UEFI BIOS directly.

When you say "when Windows won't boot at higher multipliers", how exactly would you describe that "Windows not booting" scenario?
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When you say "when Windows won't boot at higher multipliers", how exactly would you describe that "Windows not booting" scenario?

 

Oh, I mean "when Windows won't start at higher multipliers" (or "load" may be another word instead of "boot").

 

In other words, Windows looks like it's going to start up, but it doesn't even get past the animating loading logo.  If that continues happening no matter how high you set the voltage or not matter what other changes you try, then it becomes time to enable Internal PLL Overvoltage.  It's basically a "last resort" kind of option.

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Oh, I mean "when Windows won't startat higher multipliers" (or "load" may be another word instead of "boot").

In other words, Windows looks like it's going to start up, but it doesn't even get past the animating loading logo.  If that continues happening no matter how high you set the voltage or not matter what other changes you try, then it becomes time to enable Internal PLL Overvoltage.  It's basically a "last resort" kind of option.

Ahh. So with that, Windows seems to be in an infinite restarting loop that's not even getting past the windows animation logo, correct?
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