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Wow.  What's the difference in the full-load core voltage (according to CPU-Z) between stock and 4.4 GHz?

Voltage at 100% load using prime95 is 1.424V @4.4Ghz.

Just downloaded core temp and real temp. Min temp is 37C. Max temp on load is 88C. Idle temps are around 40C to 45C. It was my monitoring program all along haha. But even if this is the case, isnt 40C at idle and 88C on load still too high for a 212+?
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Voltage at 100% load using prime95 is 1.424V @4.4Ghz.
Just downloaded core temp and real temp. Min temp is 37C. Max temp on load is 88C. Idle temps are around 40C to 45C. It was my monitoring program all along haha. But even if this is the case, isnt 40C at idle and 88C on load still too high for a 212+?

Why are you using 1.424v for 4.4GHz? I would drop it to at least 1.3v, then your temps will drop.
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Voltage at 100% load using prime95 is 1.424V @4.4Ghz.
Just downloaded core temp and real temp. Min temp is 37C. Max temp on load is 88C. Idle temps are around 40C to 45C. It was my monitoring program all along haha. But even if this is the case, isnt 40C at idle and 88C on load still too high for a 212+?

 

Ha, that's normal for 1.424V.  That's a very high core voltage.  Is that really what it needs for 4.4 GHz?  I am used to seeing 4.4 GHz needing about 1.30 to maybe 1.35V under load.

 

What is the idle voltage?

 

(you're right that Core Temp and Real Temp are better)

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post #7884 of 9343
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Wow.  What's the difference in the full-load core voltage (according to CPU-Z) between stock and 4.4 GHz?

Voltage at 100% load using prime95 is 1.424V @4.4Ghz.

Just downloaded core temp and real temp. Min temp is 37C. Max temp on load is 88C. Idle temps are around 40C to 45C. It was my monitoring program all along haha. But even if this is the case, isnt 40C at idle and 88C on load still too high for a 212+?

Yes. I run prime95 on my 2500k OC'ed to 4.5GHz @ 1.36v and my temps are in the 55-65C range with ambient temps of around 25C.

Did your OC come from the auto OC? If so, that ends up with too much vcore every time. Try to lower your vcore to something between 1.3v to 1.38v or so for a 4.4GHz. Depends on your chip, of course, but 4.4GHz @ 1.424v is high and will result in high temps.

Also, what is your ambient temps? If they are high, then everything else will be higher for you in that environment.
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post #7885 of 9343

I see another possible reason for 1.424V under load at 4.4 GHz: using an Offset voltage at the Auto setting.

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post #7886 of 9343
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Ha, that's normal for 1.424V.  That's a very high core voltage.  Is that really what it needs for 4.4 GHz?  I am used to seeing 4.4 GHz needing about 1.30 to maybe 1.35V under load.

What is the idle voltage?

(you're right that Core Temp and Real Temp are better)
No those aren't normal temps. I had an i5 2500k 4.7ghz @ 1.43v an my temps were Max 70c using a hyper 212+ and also had a gtx 670 running full load @ 70c (all of this testing was done by folding )
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post #7887 of 9343
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I see another possible reason for 1.424V under load at 4.4 GHz: using an Offset voltage at the Auto setting.

You are correct.....

And I too am using a 212 for cooling.....
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No those aren't normal temps. I had an i5 2500k 4.7ghz @ 1.43v an my temps were Max 70c using a hyper 212+ and also had a gtx 670 running full load @ 70c (all of this testing was done by folding )

 

Well, he lives in Singapore.  As he put it, it's an "endless summer" there.

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Well, he lives in Singapore.  As he put it, it's an "endless summer" there.
[/quote] yes but I don't think there's going to be an 18c difference. My testing was in the summer which can get in 90s and humid here
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No those aren't normal temps. I had an i5 2500k 4.7ghz @ 1.43v an my temps were Max 70c using a hyper 212+ and also had a gtx 670 running full load @ 70c (all of this testing was done by folding )

Well, he lives in Singapore.  As he put it, it's an "endless summer" there.

Was my thoughts too, which is why I would like to know his ambient temp. Yet it still seems he has too high of temps. Maybe the overly high vcore with very high ambients - Yet still, 40C to 45C temps for idle is a bit high even so. Need more info.....
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