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Is there a version of this club for the p8z77 series?
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post #7892 of 9373
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Well, he lives in Singapore.  As he put it, it's an "endless summer" there.

Okay, okay... I went to follow TwoCables recommended template on the first page of the thread. (Can't thank you enough bro because of it, my loud buzzing, hanging problem when gaming was totally gone)

The thing is that, how do i reduce my core voltage and what should be my magic number? I followed your template exactly except for the clock speed and memory timings. If i am not wrong, the voltages are AUTO.

Idle voltage is at 1.032V.
Edited by crazydj - 12/24/12 at 2:01pm
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Okay, okay... I went to follow TwoCables recommended template on the first page of the thread. (Can't thank you enough bro because of it, my loud buzzing, hanging problem when gaming was totally gone)
The thing is that, how do i reduce my core voltage and what should be my magic number? I followed your template exactly except for the clock speed and memory timings. If i am not wrong, the voltages are AUTO.
Idle voltage is at 1.032V.

 

Use a manually-set Offset.  Using Auto is the reason why it's sitting at 1.424V under load at 4.4 GHz.

 

Try +0.005V first and then we'll go from there.

 

 

Edit:  Alternatively, you can use a Manual voltage instead of Offset for now.  That way, you can keep overclocking without continually having to readjust the Offset.  I mean, it just becomes too much guesswork trying to babysit the Offset voltage every time you change the multiplier.

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post #7894 of 9373
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Use a manually-set Offset.  Using Auto is the reason why it's sitting at 1.424V under load at 4.4 GHz.

Try +0.005V first and then we'll go from there.


Edit:  Alternatively, you can use a Manual voltage instead of Offset for now.  That way, you can keep overclocking without continually having to readjust the Offset.  I mean, it just becomes too much guesswork trying to babysit the Offset voltage every time you change the multiplier.

Okay, so from your template, the CPU offset voltage from 0.040v i change it to 0.005v? What do i do after this?

And where is this AUTO setting which you talk about? I followed everything identical that you provided in your template.

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Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: +
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.040V
DRAM Voltage: use the rated voltage for your memory
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled
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Well, you said all of your voltages are set to Auto, so I thought you meant that you had the Offset set to Auto too.

 

As I said in the post that has become the "template", you have to experiment with the Offset voltage.  It is not a "one size fits all" thing.  That +0.040V setting was giving me the voltage I needed for 4.8 GHz all of these settings were for 4.8 GHz for me).  So, change yours to +0.005V and then we'll see what happens.

 

Also, the Offset is a calculation based on your VID.  I can explain this later.  For now, start with +0.005V and then we'll go from there.

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Well, you said all of your voltages are set to Auto, so I thought you meant that you had the Offset set to Auto too.

As I said in the post that has become the "template", you have to experiment with the Offset voltage.  It is not a "one size fits all" thing.  That +0.040V setting was giving me the voltage I needed for 4.8 GHz all of these settings were for 4.8 GHz for me).  So, change yours to +0.005V and then we'll see what happens.

Also, the Offset is a calculation based on your VID.  I can explain this later.  For now, start with +0.005V and then we'll go from there.

Hmm, setting to +0.005V gives me on load 1.400V with temperatures between 82C and 86C. At idle, the temps are still the same, between 40C to 45C and the voltage betwee. 0.992V and 1.080V. The temps are still too high right?
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post #7897 of 9373
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Hmm, setting to +0.005V gives me on load 1.400V with temperatures between 82C and 86C. At idle, the temps are still the same, between 40C to 45C and the voltage betwee. 0.992V and 1.080V. The temps are still too high right?

 

I'm afraid so.  Maybe you're right that this 2500K is a bit defective (at least for overclocking).  For what it's worth, you have my sympathy.

 

Still, these are safe temps.

 

Try a negative offset, like maybe -0.005V.  It will lower the voltage just a little bit more.  Keep "increasing" the negative offset more and more and more until it becomes obvious that your voltage is too low for stability.

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I'm afraid so.  Maybe you're right that this 2500K is a bit defective (at least for overclocking).  For what it's worth, you have my sympathy.

Still, these are safe temps.

Try a negative offset, like maybe -0.005V.  It will lower the voltage just a little bit more.  Keep "increasing" the negative offset more and more and more until it becomes obvious that your voltage is too low for stability.

Ahh, that makes sense now. I thought the 0.005v was like a plus/minus kinda thing where it was some kinda threshold. Like 0.005v more or less than what it is rated at. I don't really get this. So with a negative sign, it will tend to 'reduce' the voltage when trying to achieve a higher clock speed instead of increasing it, as it should be logically?

Do you have a recommended range on how much should my voltages be on idle and on load? Like 100% load, voltage should be between 1.3v and 1.4v etc? So i can work out the best config for my rig.
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post #7899 of 9373
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Ahh, that makes sense now. I thought the 0.005v was like a plus/minus kinda thing where it was some kinda threshold. Like 0.005v more or less than what it is rated at. I don't really get this. So with a negative sign, it will tend to 'reduce' the voltage when trying to achieve a higher clock speed instead of increasing it, as it should be logically?

 

The Offset is either added to or subtracted from the VID of your current multiplier (each multiplier has its own VID).  So, using a positive offset adds to the VID, and using a negative one subtracts from it.  It really is just as simple as this.  :)

 

 

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Do you have a recommended range on how much should my voltages be on idle and on load? Like 100% load, voltage should be between 1.3v and 1.4v etc? So i can work out the best config for my rig.

 

Well, not really.  Every CPU is different, so it's necessary to experiment.  Although, I think the average core voltage needed for 4.4 GHz ranges between like 1.3V and 1.35V.  Some CPUs need a little more than this, and some need a little less than this.

 

For now, I recommend using a Manual voltage instead of Offset until you're ready to finalize your overclock.

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The Offset is either added to or subtracted from the VID of your current multiplier (each multiplier has its own VID).  So, using a positive offset adds to the VID, and using a negative one subtracts from it.  It really is just as simple as this.  smile.gif



Well, not really.  Every CPU is different, so it's necessary to experiment.  Although, I think the average core voltage needed for 4.4 GHz ranges between like 1.3V and 1.35V.  Some CPUs need a little more than this, and some need a little less than this.

For now, I recommend using a Manual voltage instead of Offset until you're ready to finalize your overclock.

Don't mind me asking, but what is a VID?

So far, running at at a negative offset of 0.005v gives me an average of 1.384v on load. The temps are still roughly the same, maybe 1 or 2 degrees lower, nothing significant. To tell you the truth, i am happy at this 4.4Ghz. My family uses this rig so i am more inclined to it being fast, stable and have low temps. I do not need it to be blazing fast anyway. So right now, i keep putting increasing the value of my negative offset until i reach the target range of 1.3v to 1.35v? Will this result in any unstability when using the PC, like all of a sudden it crashes or hangs because there is not enough voltage to the CPU?
Edited by crazydj - 12/24/12 at 3:20pm
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