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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Well ucode, I expected it to outperform my Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3. I had hoped for better bench scores for cpu, mem, ssd and system benches and higher OCs.
I did get better performance from the MSI MPower Z77 which improved in all the bench areas while also allowing for lower vcore per/CPU OC.
But the Sabertooth Z77 was around the same as my P8Z68-V/Gen3, so it was a disappointment. For the price, it should have done something better.... redface.gif

I'm not really saying it is a bad board though. Just not what I had hoped it should be and expected it to be for the price. Nice MB, but I will not buy one again when I can get the same performance from less expensive boards, and better performance from less expensive boards too! The MPower is ~$30 cheaper than a Sabertooth.
I'm not sure what gave you that impression that the Sabertooth would give you better performance, there will be (often minor) overclocking differences between the motherboards but any performance differences will be unnoticeable in almost all cases.

I'd just recommend someone to get whatever board is known to be solid for overclocking (e.g. P8Z68) and then tailor it a bit more depending on which features you want (e.g. Pro, Deluxe, Gen3 etc.)
post #7972 of 9343
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Originally Posted by Ellis View Post

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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Well ucode, I expected it to outperform my Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3. I had hoped for better bench scores for cpu, mem, ssd and system benches and higher OCs.
I did get better performance from the MSI MPower Z77 which improved in all the bench areas while also allowing for lower vcore per/CPU OC.
But the Sabertooth Z77 was around the same as my P8Z68-V/Gen3, so it was a disappointment. For the price, it should have done something better.... redface.gif

I'm not really saying it is a bad board though. Just not what I had hoped it should be and expected it to be for the price. Nice MB, but I will not buy one again when I can get the same performance from less expensive boards, and better performance from less expensive boards too! The MPower is ~$30 cheaper than a Sabertooth.
I'm not sure what gave you that impression that the Sabertooth would give you better performance, there will be (often minor) overclocking differences between the motherboards but any performance differences will be unnoticeable in almost all cases.

I'd just recommend someone to get whatever board is known to be solid for overclocking (e.g. P8Z68) and then tailor it a bit more depending on which features you want (e.g. Pro, Deluxe, Gen3 etc.)

Reviews. Reviews said the Sabertooth was very good OCer. Reviews said the MPower was a very good OCer. The reviews about the MPower were correct. Sabertooth, not as much.

But much of what you say Ellis is true in that there is little diff between most decent MBs these days and you can chose for features and still have decent OC performance. And the P8Z68-V/Gen3 has good features and OCs just fine, as does the Sabertooth.

But some boards are still better than others, and the MPower was one of them. I just thought the Sabertooth would be too. My mistake. I'm still using it and it is not a bad MB, I just noted that it was a disappointment as someone asked and I shared how I felt about it. No harm done.

Anyone can chose whatever board they like as the desire. My opinion is my own. You are welcome to yours. And I agree with you that anyone "get whatever board is known to be solid for overclocking (e.g. P8Z68) and then tailor it a bit more depending on which features you want (e.g. Pro, Deluxe, Gen3 etc.)". But I will still be looking for an above average MB next time I build a new system and it will not be a Sabertooth! smile.gif
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While "it's your opinion" it is good to get some feedback from someone who has used more than one make of board. thumb.gif

IMHO I can not help feel that with the earlier ASUS P67 boards, at least mainstream, were somewhat let down by their firmware support. Good firmware support may have made them "great boards" instead of "just another board" or worse. The question remains whether the other manufacturers were just as lacking or not, something which can only be answered by having tried several boards so is hard to quantify without deep pockets.

Although I have predominately been an "ASUS guy" I feel the time may have come to move on and try something else, so views such as yours are valuable to me. Thanks.
post #7974 of 9343
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Reviews. Reviews said the Sabertooth was very good OCer. Reviews said the MPower was a very good OCer. The reviews about the MPower were correct. Sabertooth, not as much.
But much of what you say Ellis is true in that there is little diff between most decent MBs these days and you can chose for features and still have decent OC performance. And the P8Z68-V/Gen3 has good features and OCs just fine, as does the Sabertooth.
But some boards are still better than others, and the MPower was one of them. I just thought the Sabertooth would be too. My mistake. I'm still using it and it is not a bad MB, I just noted that it was a disappointment as someone asked and I shared how I felt about it. No harm done.
Anyone can chose whatever board they like as the desire. My opinion is my own. You are welcome to yours. And I agree with you that anyone "get whatever board is known to be solid for overclocking (e.g. P8Z68) and then tailor it a bit more depending on which features you want (e.g. Pro, Deluxe, Gen3 etc.)". But I will still be looking for an above average MB next time I build a new system and it will not be a Sabertooth! smile.gif
Sure, like I said the overclocking can and will differ between boards, sometimes in a big way and sometimes on a much smaller scale, but you said you expected better benchmark results from just switching motherboards, and that's not something you'll see too often (well, any difference that counts).
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While "it's your opinion" it is good to get some feedback from someone who has used more than one make of board. thumb.gif
IMHO I can not help feel that with the earlier ASUS P67 boards, at least mainstream, were somewhat let down by their firmware support. Good firmware support may have made them "great boards" instead of "just another board" or worse. The question remains whether the other manufacturers were just as lacking or not, something which can only be answered by having tried several boards so is hard to quantify without deep pockets.
Although I have predominately been an "ASUS guy" I feel the time may have come to move on and try something else, so views such as yours are valuable to me. Thanks.
Me? I've used one other board, I know that's not enough for me to say "and the best Z68 motherboard is..." but I have used another comparable Z68 board to this one.
post #7975 of 9343
Hi guys,

My DataVac gets here tomorrow, so I'm going to be doing a full system clean and a brand new OS install with new drivers (might as well, it's been ~6 months). My question is, for the P8P67 PRO Rev 3.1, under Network drivers, it says this for the latest (aka Version 17.3.0.0):
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Intel LAN Driver V17.3.0.0 for Windows XP 32bit & XP 64bit & Win7 32bit & Win7 64bit & Win8 32bit & Win8 64bit.(WHQL)
Intel LAN Driver V17.3.0.0 for Windows XP 32bit & XP 64bit & Win7 32bit & Win7 64bit & Win8 32bit & Win8 64bit.(WHQL)

*Note: Please install NVM Update Utility for Intel 82579V Gigabit Ethernet PHY Network Connection first before you update this driver.
The URL of the Utility: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=22026

That may seem self-explanatory, but I'm confused. Should I install the PREVIOUS driver (aka Version 16.5.0.0) and then follow the above instructions, or should I just go straight to downloading the NVM update utility and then installing the newest version? I don't want to mess up and have to reinstall again, lol.
post #7976 of 9343
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Originally Posted by pjBSOD View Post

Hi guys,
My DataVac gets here tomorrow, so I'm going to be doing a full system clean and a brand new OS install with new drivers (might as well, it's been ~6 months). My question is, for the P8P67 PRO Rev 3.1, under Network drivers, it says this for the latest (aka Version 17.3.0.0):
That may seem self-explanatory, but I'm confused. Should I install the PREVIOUS driver (aka Version 16.5.0.0) and then follow the above instructions, or should I just go straight to downloading the NVM update utility and then installing the newest version? I don't want to mess up and have to reinstall again, lol.
From the Intel site:
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This utility resolves an issue where during system resume, the Intel® 82579V Gigabit Ethernet PHY Network Connection erroneously reports the device id as an Intel® 82579LM Gigabit Ethernet Controller Network Connection, resulting in a Windows* Code 10 error and loss of network connection.

Not all systems with the Intel 82579V Network connection will see this problem. Systems using Microsoft Windows* 8 are more susceptible to the issue.

If you experience this error, Intel recommends that you update the non-volatile memory for your network connection by downloading and running the NVM Update Utility.

I would just download the newer version (17.4) of the driver from Intel here. It sounds like you're unlikely to encounter any issues with it, but if you do then you'll need to look into the NVM Update Utility.

ASUS don't update their download pages every time a new driver version is released, so I usually check the Intel site for my Intel components.
post #7977 of 9343
Yea, I suggest too that you go to Intel download section and download the newest drivers. That Intel® Driver Update Utility is handy thumb.gif
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Hi guys,
My DataVac gets here tomorrow, so I'm going to be doing a full system clean and a brand new OS install with new drivers (might as well, it's been ~6 months). My question is, for the P8P67 PRO Rev 3.1, under Network drivers, it says this for the latest (aka Version 17.3.0.0):
That may seem self-explanatory, but I'm confused. Should I install the PREVIOUS driver (aka Version 16.5.0.0) and then follow the above instructions, or should I just go straight to downloading the NVM update utility and then installing the newest version? I don't want to mess up and have to reinstall again, lol.

I have the same board you do, I just installed the newest drivers on the website since I recently did a new OS install as well. Didn't need to do anything special, just went to asus support, found my board and installed the drivers.

Edit: I did this on Windows 8.
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Hello All

I have a p8p67 pro rev 3.1 and need some help.

First of all im running bios 3207 and im thinking of trying the latest posted in November 3602.

Wanted to know peoples experiance with this board and bios combo, any issue or improvements?




There is only one thing that is making me think about trying it and the issue im having is this:

I use the DVI out to my computer monitor using an xfx 7870 and the hdmi out to my tv. When the hdmi cable is plugged in the asus boot logo doesnt show and monitor stays black. If I unplug the hdmi cable to my tv then the asus boot logo will show.

Anyone else have this issue?

Ive spoken with asus tech support and said they have seen cases like this but never really figured out why.,
   
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Hello All
I have a p8p67 pro rev 3.1 and need some help.
First of all im running bios 3207 and im thinking of trying the latest posted in November 3602.
Wanted to know peoples experiance with this board and bios combo, any issue or improvements?
There is only one thing that is making me think about trying it and the issue im having is this:
I use the DVI out to my computer monitor using an xfx 7870 and the hdmi out to my tv. When the hdmi cable is plugged in the asus boot logo doesnt show and monitor stays black. If I unplug the hdmi cable to my tv then the asus boot logo will show.
Anyone else have this issue?
Ive spoken with asus tech support and said they have seen cases like this but never really figured out why.,
Im pretty sure thats because the HDMI may be too slow when responding to the PC input to show an image. Just use another DVI if you can, IMO.
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