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I've noticed sometimes when I first powerup my windows 8 machine, it turns on, but I get no display on my monitor (has happened with 2 monitors). I am using the latest beta ATI drivers for my card. The weird thing is, pressing delete i dont even get the bios to appear, just a black/dark monitor screen. I am wondering if repairing the bootloader could fix this? Anyone know how to repair the bootloader? I won't loose any of my data, will I?

After turning off, turning on the computer a few times, I finally get display and can get into windows 8, but it's annoying.

MB is an ASUS P8z68V/gen3 latest bios.

Also, I don't run raid, but run my SSD in AHCI mode.
When I go to my system tray, it shows intel RST service is not running. Is this normal for AHCI setup?


Somethings that might help:

Under "Boot" Menu

Disable Full screen logo

change Opt ROM Message to Keep Current

Boot Option #1 should be set to your actual boot drive.

Disable Boot opt #2

I set Post report delay to 3 sec but you can increase past the default of 6 sec if you are still not seeing the POST boot screen.

When this screen appears is when you tap the delete key. It is easy to miss the timing of the tap which would move on to booting windows and not go into the bios so be careful here to hit it at the right moment.

Also change the setup mode to Advanced if you have not done so already.

Under the "Advanced" Menu

 go to "On Board Devices"

Disable the Marvel & JMB controllers (assuming they are not in use) (recommended)

disable anything else you do not use.

now go to the "APM" under Advanced

Enable Power on by PCIE (assuming you are using a discrete GPU)

 

These settings are not default and are known to decrease boot time and eliminate issues such as yours. No boot screen can also be a monitor issue as well and not related to motherboard, gpu or there drivers/bios. Extending the Post Report delay may help you see that screen but will slow the boot. Even if you don't see it, if you hit the delete key at the right moment you will get into bios. Some use a mini mother board speaker which will announce with one long beep when the board has entered in the POST sequence, signaling it's time to start tapping the delete key to enter bios. They also shorten that delay time for quicker boot times as they is no need really to see that screen with this method. 

In any case I hope this helps!


Edited by owcraftsman - 1/9/13 at 2:06pm
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Somethings that might help:
Under "Boot" Menu
Disable Full screen logo
change Opt ROM Message to Keep Current
Boot Option #1 should be set to your actual boot drive.
Disable Boot opt #2
I set Post report delay to 3 sec but you can increase past the default of 6 sec if you are still not seeing the POST boot screen.
When this screen appears is when you tap the delete key. It is easy to miss the timing of the tap which would move on to booting windows and not go into the bios so be careful here to hit it at the right moment.
Also change the setup mode to Advanced if you have not done so already.
Under the "Advanced" Menu
 go to "On Board Devices"
Disable the Marvel & JMB controllers (assuming they are not in use) (recommended)
disable anything else you do not use.
now go to the "APM" under Advanced
Enable Power on by PCIE (assuming you are using a discrete GPU)

These settings are not default and are known to decrease boot time and eliminate issues such as yours. No boot screen can also be a monitor issue as well and not related to motherboard, gpu or there drivers/bios. Extending the Post Report delay may help you see that screen but will slow the boot. Even if you don't see it, if you hit the delete key at the right moment you will get into bios. Some use a mini mother board speaker which will announce with one long beep when the board has entered in the POST sequence, signaling it's time to start tapping the delete key to enter bios. They also shorten that delay time for quicker boot times as they is no need really to see that screen with this method. 
In any case I hope this helps!

Thanks Ill give those a try! Any info on the Intel RST part of the question?
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Thanks Ill give those a try! Any info on the Intel RST part of the question?

RST doesn't show as running straight away on startup. Normal.
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Any ideas as to what BIOS option "SATA Device Type -> HDD /SSD" does and why only on 6Gb/s Intel ports?
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Thanks Ill give those a try! Any info on the Intel RST part of the question?

If that bothers you, you can go into services.msc and change IRST Startup type from Automatic (Delayed Start) to just plain Automatic. Not sure why it's set to a delayed start by default. Maybe it's that way to let other system services that are more important to load first?
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good info
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I have that service disabled because it's just a notification manager.

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If that bothers you, you can go into services.msc and change IRST Startup type from Automatic (Delayed Start) to just plain Automatic. Not sure why it's set to a delayed start by default. Maybe it's that way to let other system services that are more important to load first?

I'm not at home to check or provide details on this, but I am under the impression that you don't even need to be running the program that shows IRST in the Windows tray for IRST to be active. I disabled mine to save a few resources and I am sure that IRST is still running.
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I have that service disabled because it's just a notification manager.

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I'm not at home to check or provide details on this, but I am under the impression that you don't even need to be running the program that shows IRST in the Windows tray for IRST to be active. I disabled mine to save a few resources and I am sure that IRST is still running.

Probably both right however I like the option to email me with drive warrnings/errors. You can never be alerted too soon if your drive is on the fritz. thumb.gif
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There are two aspects to IRST:  the software and the driver.  The software uses the driver, and I have the software disabled.  ;)

 

If you're wondering how I know, I did two "before and after" benchmarks:  I did the first one to see if there was any difference between msahci and iaStor, and the 2nd was to see if there was any difference after disabling the software and all related processes entirely.  When I disabled the software so that I no longer have any IRST-related processes running, the better benchmark after iaStor remained the same.

 

There was another way for me to tell:  when I switched from msahci to iaStor, my startup time was noticeably faster.  My first clue was the Windows 7 loading animation was no longer able to finish.  :)  After getting rid of all of the IRST-related processes, the Windows 7 loading animation was still unable to finish.  So that tells me that the driver is still working its magic.

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