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Alright, well now I have LLC set to Medium, C3 and C6 are enabled, and my Offset is +0.065V - and it used to be Ultra High, C3 and C6 disabled, and offset was +0.005V.  My idle voltage is still sitting at just a hair over 1.0V, but it was below 1.0V when I was still increasing my offset up to +0.065V.  The first offset I tried is +0.040V, then I went to +0.055V, and then I put it at +0.065V.  When I reached +0.065V, my idle voltage became identical to what it was with Ultra High, +0.005V and C3 and C6 disabled.

I'm not sure if I'll keep this, but with the talk of how a lower LLC reduces VRM temps, I just might.  I have the exact same idle and load voltages as before.

How were you able to achieve the same idle voltage for a lower LLC?
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post #8222 of 9373
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How were you able to achieve the same idle voltage for a lower LLC?

 

Like I said, by increasing the Offset to compensate.  First I tried +0.040V, but it was too low.  So I randomly tried +0.055V, and that was still too low.  So, I randomly (again) chose +0.065V and that just happened to give me the exact same voltages as before with the lower LLC setting.

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post #8223 of 9373
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Like I said, by increasing the Offset to compensate.  First I tried +0.040V, but it was too low.  So I randomly tried +0.055V, and that was still too low.  So, I randomly (again) chose +0.065V and that just happened to give me the exact same voltages as before with the lower LLC setting.

Well, I thought that when you lower LLC (you increase your Offset to compensate for the load voltage) the idle voltage will be higher? At least that's what's explained in the Sandy Bridge Stable Thread.
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post #8224 of 9373
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Well, I thought that when you lower LLC (you increase your Offset to compensate for the load voltage) the idle voltage will be higher? At least that's what's explained in the Sandy Bridge Stable Thread.

 

That's correct.  Like I said, I did this so that I could experiment with enabling C3 and C6.  So, I have C3 and C6 enabled right now.  If I disable them, then my idle voltage will be higher than it is now which means that it would be higher than it was before when I had Ultra High, +0.005V, and C3 and C6 disabled.

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That's correct.  Like I said, I did this so that I could experiment with enabling C3 and C6.  So, I have C3 and C6 enabled right now.  If I disable them, then my idle voltage will be higher than it is now which means that it would be higher than it was before when I had Ultra High, +0.005V, and C3 and C6 disabled.

Oh ok, so the C3 and C6 functions were the one who compensated for the idle voltage. Won't it affect SSD performance though?
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post #8226 of 9373
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Well, I thought that when you lower LLC (you increase your Offset to compensate for the load voltage) the idle voltage will be higher? At least that's what's explained in the Sandy Bridge Stable Thread.

That's correct.  Like I said, I did this so that I could experiment with enabling C3 and C6.  So, I have C3 and C6 enabled right now.  If I disable them, then my idle voltage will be higher than it is now which means that it would be higher than it was before when I had Ultra High, +0.005V, and C3 and C6 disabled.
I'd set yours to LLC to HIGH not medium and tweak it from there.
Phase Control: Optimized first then try higher level if needed.
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Oh ok, so the C3 and C6 functions were the one who compensated for the idle voltage. Won't it affect SSD performance though?

 

I don't know one way or another.  I haven't felt any difference, so I don't know.

 

 

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I'd set yours to LLC to HIGH not medium and tweak it from there.

 

Why?  Am I taking a risk that I don't know about?  I'd like to know because this is my baby.

 

Still, I'm getting precisely the same idle and load voltages I had before.

 

Edit:  My phase control is at Extreme.  Why Optimized first?  I feel I may learn something valuable here.  I admit that "Extreme" is beginning to sound like a setting for very big overclocks.

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post #8228 of 9373
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I'd set yours to LLC to HIGH not medium and tweak it from there.
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Why?  Am I taking a risk that I don't know about?  I'd like to know because this is my baby.

Still, I'm getting precisely the same idle and load voltages I had before.

Edit:  My phase control is at Extreme.  Why Optimized first?  I feel I may learn something valuable here.  I admit that "Extreme" is beginning to sound like a setting for very big overclocks.
medium might be OK, I had to look and your at 4.7GHz, so stay there but if going up like 4.8 and above then high not medium.
as for phase control, getting it off extreme will lower voltage across the board, the same principal for the 4.5-4.7GHz range I stated for LLC.
Edited by malmental - 2/5/13 at 7:31pm
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Do you guys never use "Additional Turbo Voltage"? It is similar to Offset but just affects the load voltage and not the idle voltage which is what we always want, right?
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post #8230 of 9373
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medium might be OK, I had to look and your at 4.7GHz, so stay there but if going up like 4.8 and above then high not medium.
as for phase control, getting it off extreme will lower voltage across the board, the same principal for the 4.5-4.7GHz range I stated for LLC.

 

Oh wow.  Optimized it is then.  :)

 

Thank you, malmental!

 

 

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Do you guys never use "Additional Turbo Voltage"? It is similar to Offset but just affects the load voltage and not the idle voltage which is what we always want, right?

 

The P8P67 boards don't have that.  Besides, I prefer to affect both:  I want the lowest possible idle and load voltages.

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