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time for work guys (and gals if around), I'm on dreaded 'server duty' again tonight.
hopefully I can check back in a few hours from now.
gonna load up Win 8 on the workstation and yell at it and my manager all night about how much I hate it..
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peace.
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Yeah, and I have to go to bed.  I can't stay up for much longer.

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Well, up until about 30 seconds ago, it was Extreme.  Now it's T. Probe.  smile.gif

I figure T Probe would be best for the longevity of the VRM, same for Phase Control = Optimized. So if you can get a stable OC with either, that is what you should go with. I wish there were temperature probes on the VRM. I tried the various VRM settings at 4.5 GHz and found none really affected the OC stability or the CPU temps. Would be interesting to hear if the same is true @ 4.7GHz.
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Oh ok, so the C3 and C6 functions were the one who compensated for the idle voltage. Won't it affect SSD performance though?
Regarding the C3/C6 states & their impact to SSD performance, I read some discussion on it in the other forum. The benchmark show the difference because CPU is not fully loaded. Let say you're working on something, definitely CPU is working on job(s) & therefore CPU is not entering C3/C6 states. So, the SSD performance shouldn't be effected even if C3/C6 enabled.
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I figure T Probe would be best for the longevity of the VRM, same for Phase Control = Optimized. So if you can get a stable OC with either, that is what you should go with. I wish there were temperature probes on the VRM. I tried the various VRM settings at 4.5 GHz and found none really affected the OC stability or the CPU temps. Would be interesting to hear if the same is true @ 4.7GHz.

 

I admit that I feel like I'm taking a chance based on what JJ said in that Newegg TV video. I mean, he took the 2600K to 4.8 GHz and to me that's like taking the 2500K to 4.7 GHz.  Still, I have never tried Optimized or T. Probe for 4.7 GHz, so I figure it might be fun to see what happens.  :)

 

In the meantime though, I have to go to bed.

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(depending on your clock speed) - thermal which is lower..

edit:
I use EIST with the C-states.

I'm aiming for 4.7 only because 4.8 for my CPU needs close to 1.5V already.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

According to this excerpt which malmental posted maybe 30 minutes ago, they should probably be set to Extreme if using a multiplier of 50 or higher:



This was written by JJ who's the guy in the video I posted.  However, I believe he wrote this guide after he did that Newegg TV video, so I think that this guide represents some things he may have learned.

Oh ok, interesting.
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Regarding the C3/C6 states & their impact to SSD performance, I read some discussion on it in the other forum. The benchmark show the difference because CPU is not fully loaded. Let say you're working on something, definitely CPU is working on job(s) & therefore CPU is not entering C3/C6 states. So, the SSD performance shouldn't be effected even if C3/C6 enabled.

What do you suggest then, enabling them or disabling? I can't deduce from the information you've provided which setting is best.
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

Regarding the C3/C6 states & their impact to SSD performance, I read some discussion on it in the other forum. The benchmark show the difference because CPU is not fully loaded. Let say you're working on something, definitely CPU is working on job(s) & therefore CPU is not entering C3/C6 states. So, the SSD performance shouldn't be effected even if C3/C6 enabled.

I think it is because the C states are at a finer granularity in time. You don't see this effect with EIST for instance, which isn't fne grained. And also it doesn't affect sequential transfers because they are streaming and the state change overheads are small compared to the transfer times. I would still think that would mean small random transfers are affected whenever the processor load is low or medium. I will try and think of a good way to measure this.
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Is there anything online that explains what the c states do and how they interact with windows?

Windows interacts with C-states, not the other way around. You might find in your BIOS that when disabling C3/C6 it says something like "Disable C3 Reporting". IOW C-states are not disabled, instead when the BIOS hands off to the OS it just doesn't inform it of the idle state(s). If Windows doesn't know about them then it doesn't use them.

Very basically, CPU core C1 stops the core clock, better known as "Halt", when all cores are at C1 state or higher and C1E is enabled then as well as stopping the clocks the voltage can be lowered to that of the LFM (VID that is associated with the lowest frequency mode, typically 1.6GHz for SNB/IVB). IIRC C3 also flushes L1/L2 and C6 additionally turns off supplies internally.

So when you think your CPU is idling at 1.6GHz it is most probably not running at all (0GHz). When you use software like cpu-z to measure frequency it needs to wake up the core(s) to read the registers. (catch 22). IIRC software such as Throttlestop and maybe Realtemp will show the time that the CPU spends in each C-State.

For using stepped turbo's you need the higher C-states enabled. For instance my 2500k gets quite hot for me at 4.6GHz with all 4 cores heavily loaded so I don't want to run 4 cores higher than that but if I'm only using one core it runs at 5.0GHz. For my P67/2500k no EIST, regular LLC (Intel spec) no C1E, C3/C6 reporting, -0.005V offset and 0.25V additional turbo voltage.


For LLC you might find this interesting http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/5 and http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/6
Edited by ucode - 2/5/13 at 10:32pm
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If overclocking by altering the multiplier and setting it as "All Cores", do you still need to enable Turbo Mode? Isn't it a redundant setting since the CPU won't be using Turbo anyways or will it?
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Any multi over 33 for your 2500k needs turbo enabled. If you set multi's in the BIOS above 33 then the BIOS should automatically enable turbo.
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