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I noticed when testing today that selecting C1E, C3 or C6 seems to over ride the EIST selection. With EIST enabled or disabled, enabling any of the low power C States will let the multiplier go between the minimum and the maximum.

If EIST is disabled, the CPU will ignore any multiplier change requests in the MSR 0x199 IA_PERF_CTRL register. That's why ThrottleStop does not work correctly when EIST is disabled.. I usually just leave EIST enabled. The Asus bios leaves it enabled whether you select enabled or disabled and I use C6 to save power so the EIST state does not seem to be too important on unlocked Ivy CPUs.

I will try to add MSR 0xE2 - bits[2..0] to the RealTemp C States window for the next version. I think Intel changed the meaning of this register between some of the different Core i CPU versions so if you notice and inconsistencies between what ThrottleStop reports and what MSR 0xE2 shows then post or PM me an example. I lose track of all the forums I am in.

kevindd992002 - Sorry I couldn't keep up with all of your questions.
Ask me 1 or 2 a day so I still have some time left over to work on my projects. smile.gif

No worries but I do have a last concern here. I'm really trying to stay awake just to catch your answer biggrin.gif I hate the time difference because I live in a GMT+8 time zone which makes it 10:49AM here as of the moment. I usually sleep when you're awake and vice versa.

Regarding offset vs. fixed when we cannot stop the CPU from changing frequency. What is the frequency when the CPU is in C6?

Here's an example assuming C3/C6 are enabled for all cases:

1.) For fixed vcore (say 1.45V), it will be applied as the vcore from frequencies 3.3GHz up to 4.7GHz (max turbo multi).

2.) With offset vcore, the vcore will be lower for frequencies less than 4.7GHz because it adds/subtracts the offset value from the VID of each multi. The lower the multi, the lower the VID, the lower the effective vcore.

In that example, what is the disadvantage of using offset then aside from the difficulty in making it stable with C3 and C6 enabled?
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In that example, what is the disadvantage of using offset then aside from the difficulty in making it stable with C3 and C6 enabled?

 

Unclewebb, I would also like to ask the same question but in a different way:  if I have C3 and C6 enabled, then can you say again why you recommend a fixed core voltage and a fixed multiplier instead of a dynamic voltage and multiplier?  Or rather, why you recommend using a fixed voltage with EIST and C1E disabled if C3 and C6 are enabled?  My reason for asking is I tried this, but I did not like the fact that CPU-Z was showing my idle and low-load voltages sitting way above 1.4V.  I mean, I am preferring to use Medium LLC these days, so I guess another question I have is this:  is it really sitting at 1.4V+ when my CPU is idling and under very low loads?  I know that the more intense the load the lower the voltage droops under that load, and the lighter the load, the less vDroop there is and therefore the higher the voltage is.  However, does it even matter if C3 and C6 are enabled with C1E and EIST disabled?

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post #8543 of 9343

Unfortunately, disabling CPU Spread Spectrum wasn't the answer either.  So now I'm going to go back to my old settings to see if that works.

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I don't know but I highly doubt that you're settings have something to do with your dvd playback. Try installing shark007 codecs.
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I don't know but I highly doubt that you're settings have something to do with your dvd playback. Try installing shark007 codecs.

 

No, this problem surfaced after changing to those new settings that I liked so much.  So I'm back to my old settings to see if the problem continues.

 

This affects MP3 playback in PotPlayer as well.

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I am new here at this forum. I have little problems with my OC. 2 Days ago I overclocked my 2500K with my corsair cooler to 4.5Ghz only with the multiplier. It was stable so I thought no problems. Then when I restart my system, I got the error from my bios "overclock failed, please press F1 to run setup". That was very weird, because it was stable. So I updated my bios from 0501 to 3603, maybe that will solve it. But then, the multiplier was locked and It won't get higher than 33, also not with +/-. I thought, that is the bios update. So now, I flashed my bios back to 0501, but I have the same problem. With CPU-Z I don't see weird things, and I have also cleared my CMOS. So maybe somebody know how to solve this problem?

Also the option by all cores is gone:


Edited by Erikk - 2/23/13 at 10:19am
post #8548 of 9343
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No, this problem surfaced after changing to those new settings that I liked so much.  So I'm back to my old settings to see if the problem continues.

This affects MP3 playback in PotPlayer as well.

Oh ok. Let us know the outcome then.
post #8549 of 9343
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Oh ok. Let us know the outcome then.

 

Thank you.  I hope I don't forget!  :)

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Somebody that can help me?
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