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Hello all,

I noticed there is a BIOS update for the p8p67 -LE 3801. My question i'm having issues with using my P8P67 and 4 dimms of ram.

Now for about 5 years I've been packing the same setup, but recently I got an NVME-PCIE SSD and I installed it in slot 2 of the PCIE. (it's bandwidth limited but faster than sata 6g)

The issue is if the NVME drive is installed Dimm B2 will cause the red memory led to stay on during boot. If i pull out the ram it works fine.

I've tried other ram and moving the ram around in every combination, it seems its only if that dimm has ram and there is a card installed in to PCIE2.

I was wondering if flashing to 3801 would help because 3703 states " P8P67 LE BIOS 3703 Enhance compatibility with some PCIE device." which leads me to believe it may fix my issue.
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Hello all,

I noticed there is a BIOS update for the p8p67 -LE 3801. My question i'm having issues with using my P8P67 and 4 dimms of ram.

Now for about 5 years I've been packing the same setup, but recently I got an NVME-PCIE SSD and I installed it in slot 2 of the PCIE. (it's bandwidth limited but faster than sata 6g)

The issue is if the NVME drive is installed Dimm B2 will cause the red memory led to stay on during boot. If i pull out the ram it works fine.

I've tried other ram and moving the ram around in every combination, it seems its only if that dimm has ram and there is a card installed in to PCIE2.

I was wondering if flashing to 3801 would help because 3703 states " P8P67 LE BIOS 3703 Enhance compatibility with some PCIE device." which leads me to believe it may fix my issue.

check this out:
https://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20131223070148670&board_id=1&model=P8P67+LE&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
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What the heck does that have to do with my problem? I'm not talking about sata at all?!
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I've been running Win10 since the release of the insiders beta. Works great on my p8p67.

I had to use an older Marvell driver for the Marvell controller, also if you replace the USB 3.0 renesys driver with one form Win 7 or win 8, usb 3 will work faster it seems.

No issues with win 10 for me.
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Originally Posted by zazzn View Post

Hello all,

I noticed there is a BIOS update for the p8p67 -LE 3801. My question i'm having issues with using my P8P67 and 4 dimms of ram.

Now for about 5 years I've been packing the same setup, but recently I got an NVME-PCIE SSD and I installed it in slot 2 of the PCIE. (it's bandwidth limited but faster than sata 6g)

The issue is if the NVME drive is installed Dimm B2 will cause the red memory led to stay on during boot. If i pull out the ram it works fine.

I've tried other ram and moving the ram around in every combination, it seems its only if that dimm has ram and there is a card installed in to PCIE2.

I was wondering if flashing to 3801 would help because 3703 states " P8P67 LE BIOS 3703 Enhance compatibility with some PCIE device." which leads me to believe it may fix my issue.

Worst case scenario, nothing will change. EVO didn't get that bios so it seems to be a LE specific issue.
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Btw, as I get lazy, i can't really find which voltage to raise a bit for 4 sticks of ram on p8p67 evo. VCCIO or VCCSA ? With the newer gens, it got a little fuzzy. Anyone here using 4 sticks of ram and had to raise any voltages ? It's a mismatched ram issue i know. I'm using 2 different kits. At first nothing was wrong but yesterday firefox crashed a lot and edge blue screened for memory_management for the first time on win10. So I raised dram voltage to 1.55v and vccio to 1.1v and it seems to be holding for now. Might also be a heating issue. The sticks get hot to touch, but you can keep touching at least.
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Originally Posted by Catscratch View Post

Btw, as I get lazy, i can't really find which voltage to raise a bit for 4 sticks of ram on p8p67 evo. VCCIO or VCCSA ? With the newer gens, it got a little fuzzy. Anyone here using 4 sticks of ram and had to raise any voltages ? It's a mismatched ram issue i know. I'm using 2 different kits. At first nothing was wrong but yesterday firefox crashed a lot and edge blue screened for memory_management for the first time on win10. So I raised dram voltage to 1.55v and vccio to 1.1v and it seems to be holding for now. Might also be a heating issue. The sticks get hot to touch, but you can keep touching at least.

VCCSA, which is the system agent voltage should help for more than two RAM sticks.

Might need to loosen RAM timings more if your memory is overclocked.
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VCCSA, which is the system agent voltage should help for more than two RAM sticks.

Might need to loosen RAM timings more if your memory is overclocked.

Yeah, there are a lot of sites on web that says vccio is the memory controller voltage and vccsa is not to be touched. Very fuzzy info around.

One of the few sources that say as you did : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/understanding-all-voltage-configurations-from-the-motherboard/4/
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VCCSA: Starting with the second-generation Core i processors (“Sandy Bridge”), the VTT voltage was renamed to VCCSA, and is called “system agent.” It feeds the integrated PCI Express controller, memory controller, and display engine (i.e., the “2D” part of the graphics engine).
VCCIO: Available starting with the second-generation Core i CPUs (“Sandy Bridge”), this voltage is used for feeding all input/output (I/O) pins of the CPU, except memory-related pins. On CPUs that have this voltage, it is also used to feed the thermal control bus (PECI, Platform Environmental Control Interface).

PS: Timings are not a problem right now, one kit is 8-9-8 1866, the slower kit is 9-10-9. I'm using them 10-11-10 @ 1.50-1.55v right now. I may try 9-10-9 @1.55 if vccio or vccsa gives me more stability biggrin.gif
Edited by Catscratch - 8/1/16 at 7:43am
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Wow. I had to increase VCCIO in order to stabilize my system, and I was told that I had to do that because I have DDR3-1866 memory instead of 1600 MHz memory. I haven't touched VCCSA.

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Wow. I had to increase VCCIO in order to stabilize my system, and I was told that I had to do that because I have DDR3-1866 memory instead of 1600 MHz memory. I haven't touched VCCSA.

biggrin.gif One of the most messed up topics of sandybridge platform. White paper clearly states vcssa as System Agent (memory controller, DMI, PCIe controllers, and display engine) power supply
VCCIO does not have a detailed description.
Quote:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2157-Maximus-IV-Extreme-Bios-Sandybridge-CPU-Overview-and-CPU-Overclocking-Guide
VCCIO
The adjustment of this voltage may help to slightly improve the overclocking capability of the IMC / DRAM, even though the default voltage is enough to run at a 2133MHz DRAM frequency. A 1.20v setting is more than adequate to maximize Memory overclocks in most cases.

But for ivybridge, VCCSA is the thing. Since the terminology is the same, how can intel have the same feature for different things 1 generation apart ? Weird because sandy boards also support ivy cpus biggrin.gif
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https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?38018-Ivy-Bridge-E-Easy-Overclocking-Guide-%96-The-Listy-Wordy-Edition
4) VCCSA is the voltage that helps facilitate memory overclocking on Ivy-E. DRAM voltage does too (obviously). Speeds over DDR3-2400 may require high levels of VCCSA if high density memory configurations are used. We have used up to 1.40V with 64GB of memory at speeds over DDR3-2400.

PS: As per intel spec, anything above 1333 is out of spec for Sandy. Even tight 1600 sticks, especially if all 4 slots are populated, may need voltage nudge.
Edited by Catscratch - 8/1/16 at 9:20am
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