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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher View Post
Here is the quote:

"To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device."

Taken out of context, that could be misinterpreted to make the reader think that apple is collecting your location data at all times and sharing that information. My point was that you have a choice in the matter, via a push notification that frankly I find annoying, to allow the App/Apple to use your current location. You can just simply push "no" and your location is not sent anywhere.

The "bug", if I remember correctly, was that the phone was holding on to these gps coordinates longer than intended on your phone's internal memory.



People have repeatedly stated that Android based phones have a similar option. Hope this cleared things up.
The other issue is that they kept you data despite you switching the location services off. If they are lying about the location services really being off, could they really be tracking you/letting the apps track you?
    
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Congress, you're holding it wrong....
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It's quite hilarious and also quite saddening the measures to which they go to create illusions that they are not responsible and have no knowledge of such occurences.
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If Apple isn't uploading your information for tracking, then what is this?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ga...ton7-12-10.pdf
That's saying they can do it, it doesn't mean they did.

Granted, I'm waiting for proof that they didn't track anything.

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
It wasn't caused by a bug. The only way it would be caused by a bug is if they were already planning on storing that information anyway, but backed out. Yes, the information wasn't being sent to Apple or anyone else, but that's probably because it wasn't yet fully implemented.

They patented plans to store your information to use for advertising purposes. They were obviously working toward that goal. How is that hard to understand?
Exactly, there is no way it's just going to accidentally save the location data, they must have really screwed up the coding if its saving it too long or sending it to Apple even if you say no to the notification, it begs to ask what other bugs they may have due to the massive amount of similar possible oversights in iTunes, Safari, OS X, iOS, etc.
    
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Who let Justin Beiber into a senate hearing?
    
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post #26 of 30
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If Apple isn't uploading your information for tracking, then what is this?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ga...ton7-12-10.pdf
Well that's just pillow talk baby... that information was going to improve...something...somehow. Riiiiiiiight. That's why they stored it. For no reason. Suuuuuuure.
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post #27 of 30
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"To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device."
You quoted a revision.

Quote:
"C. Locaiton-Based Information

Apple relied on (and still relies on) databases maintained by Google and Skyhook Wireless ("Skyhook") to provide location-based services. Beginning with the iPhone OS version 3.2 released in April 2010, Apple relies on its own databases to provide location-based services and for diagnostic purposes. These databases must be update continuously to account for, among other things, the ever-changing physical landscape, more innovative uses of mobile technology, and the increasing number of Apple's customers. Apple always has taken great care to protect the privacy of its customers."
It isn't a bug, it is exactly what Apple wants to further their business agenda (whatever means they are using to further their business quota).

The world is not dynamic enough where the physical landscape is constantly changing. Knowing where the user is, is enough to know where their users are to improve connectivity to those places. Innovative uses of mobile technology has no relation here. And the increasing user-base does not mean that you start tracking them.

Quote:
"1. a: Collections and Transmissions from Apple Mobile Devices

Apple collects information about nearby cell towers, such as the location of the towers(s), Cell IDs, and data about the strength of the signal transmitted from the towers. Location, Cell ID, and signal strength information is available to ANYONE with certain commercially available software."
First quote, tells you that they are gathering the information for personal use for the business. The second confirms how much information they are getting from their "tracking" methods.
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GateGate.
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Congress, you're holding it wrong....
You guys seriously need some new material. It's not even remotely funny anymore, no matter what the situation is.
 
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post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by duckieho View Post
if apple isn't uploading your information for tracking, then what is this?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ga...ton7-12-10.pdf
qft.
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Congress, you're holding it wrong....
Hahaha,that made me lol.
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