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I would LOVE to have Quick Sync and my discrete GPU's. If I had the money I would defninitely buy that motherboard. Mostly for the vastly superior transcoding speed with Quick Sync. I could use that.

The P67 and H67 are both decent chipsets. But I would prefer having the use of the combination.
It feels like the features the IGP offers will go to waste if I use a P67.
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It feels like the features the IGP offers will go to waste if I use a P67.
Especially, since Intel included the HD 3000 only on the high-end CPUs which probably would run discrete cards anyway.


Intel's marketing dept really screwed up the i series naming convention and really screwed up the SB/chipset feature set.
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Especially, since Intel included the HD 3000 only on the high-end CPUs which probably would run discrete cards anyway.


Intel's marketing dept really screwed up the i series naming convention and really screwed up the SB/chipset feature set.
Indeed.
However, I find their move amusing. It's screwing with buyers who have knowledge about this topic, while making more money for Intel.
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P67 is basically dead going foward though. If you plan on an enthusiast build, Z67 is the way to go.
This honestly made me laugh.

First off, how is p67 dead? It's not like they won't be producing p67 motherboards any more. Z68 does not replace p67.

And if you were an enthusiast, you wouldn't be buying sandy bridge in the first place. Everyone knows it is a mainstream platform.

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This honestly made me laugh.

First off, how is p67 dead? It's not like they won't be producing p67 motherboards any more. Z68 does not replace p67.

And if you were an enthusiast, you wouldn't be buying sandy bridge in the first place. Everyone knows it is a mainstream platform.

Because companies don't see the point producting in P67 anymore. I assume they are pin-compatible and Intel bulk pricing is only a few dollar difference. There is no need for two SKUs that are almost the same for almost the same price. The Z68 for all intent and purposes does replace the P68.

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Interestingly, the price difference between Z68 and P67 is smaller than you might think. According to contacts in Taiwan, manufacturers have been drawing down their P67 inventory in preparation for Z68. There will be Z68 bundle packages that bear a price premium, but early quotes suggest similar pricing to the current P67 selection. Instead of charging more, some motherboard vendors intend to swallow the cost upfront, which is great news for anyone about to build a Sandy Bridge-based system.

...I don't even know how to respond to the "mainstream" platform comment. This platform currently provides the best performance for lightly thread workloads. In addition, an "enthusiast" is by definition "one who is ardently attached to a cause, object, or pursuit ". Are you saying that I cannot be an enthusiast if I want to build a low-power HTPC using mainstream parts?


In your opinion, what should "enthusiast" be purchasing today if they plan on building a gaming rig? Or a single-thread benchmark system?
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/11/11 at 10:06am
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Z68... how would it work for AMD users with cfx and eyefinity? It won't right since I'd have to use the onboard for quicksync?
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Because companies don't see the point producting in P67 anymore. I assume they are pin-compatible and Intel bulk pricing is only a few dollar difference. There is no need for two SKUs that are almost the same for almost the same price. The Z68 for all intent and purposes does replace the P68.

...I don't even know how to respond to the "mainstream" platform comment. This platform currently provides the best performance for lightly thread workloads. In addition, an "enthusiast" is by definition "one who is ardently attached to a cause, object, or pursuit ". Are you saying that I cannot be an enthusiast if I want to build a low-power HTPC using mainstream parts?
This x 10000.
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Because companies don't see the point producting in P67 anymore. I assume they are pin-compatible and Intel bulk pricing is only a few dollar difference. There is no need for two SKUs that are almost the same for almost the same price. The Z68 for all intent and purposes does replace the P68.




...I don't even know how to respond to the "mainstream" platform comment. This platform currently provides the best performance for lightly thread workloads. In addition, an "enthusiast" is by definition "one who is ardently attached to a cause, object, or pursuit ". Are you saying that I cannot be an enthusiast if I want to build a low-power HTPC using mainstream parts?
Wouldn't that mean h67 would be phased out too then? You can get z68 boards for just as cheap.

And I guess it just really depends on what your definition of "enthusiast" is. Intel's definition and yours are much different then, mostly because their's is about making the most profit, but you see what I mean.
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eh

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Why even bother if you cant use let's say.. Nvidia Optimus or AMD's equivalent?
Nv doesn't support Optimus very well... why bother?

-Optimus user.
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Wouldn't that mean h67 would be phased out too then? You can get z68 boards for just as cheap.

And I guess it just really depends on what your definition of "enthusiast" is. Intel's definition and yours are much different then, mostly because their's is about making the most profit, but you see what I mean.
No, because the H67 does not target the same market as the P67 and Z68. The P67 and Z68 are aimmed at people who want to overclock and get the most out of their hardware. The H67 is for office, OEM, home, kiosok, etc builds where cost trumpts features. There is enough differentiation for them both.


There is no clear definition of "enthusiast" though as it is subjective to a degree. However, you made the generalization.... so please explain your position.


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. Why even bother if you cant use let's say.. Nvidia Optimus or AMD's equivalent? Why Lucid?
I thought Optimus allowed a system to use IGP or discrete. Virtu allows for IGP while using discrete.
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