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...I don't even know how to respond to the "mainstream" platform comment. This platform currently provides the best performance for lightly thread workloads. In addition, an "enthusiast" is by definition "one who is ardently attached to a cause, object, or pursuit ". Are you saying that I cannot be an enthusiast if I want to build a low-power HTPC using mainstream parts?

In your opinion, what should "enthusiast" be purchasing today if they plan on building a gaming rig? Or a single-thread benchmark system?
DuckieHo - If I could +rep you for this, I would.

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Wouldn't that mean h67 would be phased out too then?
I think Sandy Bridge should have debuted with Z68 and H67. With the release of Z68, P67 is now the odd one out. Even if manufacturers don't officially discontinue P67, I will not be surprised if it ultimately phases itself out due to lack of consumer demand.
    
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If I were building my rig now I would be waiting for Z68 but I certainly wouldn't get rid of my P67 Sabertooth to get a Z68 board now. Then again, if Asus offers a Z68 Sabertooth that looks as cool as the P67 I might get one and Ivy Bridge later this year....
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Ofc the Z68 doesnt offer much over the P67 but ive seen the Z68 UD4 preview from Vertez and they said the mobo has 16phases over the 12 from the orginal P67 UD4 ... just for that I might consider a Z68 UD4 instead. At some point maybe ill buy a cheap 64gb SSD and try the SSD caching ... If its not that good ill just install Windows +few games on it.
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Ofc the Z68 doesnt offer much over the P67 but ive seen the Z68 UD4 preview from Vertez and they said the mobo has 16phases over the 12 from the orginal P67 UD4 ... just for that I might consider a Z68 UD4 instead. At some point maybe ill buy a cheap 64gb SSD and try the SSD caching ... If its not that good ill just install Windows +few games on it.
With a 64GB SSD, you might as well use it as a standard drive....
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SSD caching is an interesting idea, however $100 20 for a GB SSD? $5 per GB makes it unappealing even if it is SLC. Why not just spend the extra few dollars and get a 60 GB Sandforce drive?
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The virtu workaround is not something I would trust as far as stability, there will be bugs and incompatabilities at the least it is a concern.

The big question is can the Z68 work like an H67, where the discrete graphics card is plugged into your bigscreen HDTV and the MB connected to the monitor out, select extend display in bios and boom you have QuickSynch? No Virtue 3rd part BS.

Also I do think that the P67 is obsolete, I mean probably 90% of users who need something faster than a 3.2ghz SB are doing encoing and even with a P67 at 5ghz an H67 blows it out of the water using quicksynch , plus you can still play games with a 69770 with your quicksynch encoding apps on your monitor , so in my mind the P67 was a complete muligan compared to the H67, hopefully the Z68 will prove to be as stable as the H67.
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I'm making a new build, and I am definitely not going Z68. I'm not paying $50 more for features I'll only use a small amount of times (Quick Sync). SSD caching I won't even bother with. I'll just buy a 64GB SSD when they come to around $70 or so in a year and buy it. With 64GB you're able to install the OS, your most important applications, and a game or two. That's all that's really needed for an SSD, IMO. Of course, I'd still have a Hard Drive for storage and for the other games and what not.
    
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I'm making a new build, and I am definitely not going Z68. I'm not paying $50 more for features I'll only use a small amount of times (Quick Sync). SSD caching I won't even bother with. I'll just buy a 64GB SSD when they come to around $70 or so in a year and buy it. With 64GB you're able to install the OS, your most important applications, and a game or two. That's all that's really needed for an SSD, IMO. Of course, I'd still have a Hard Drive for storage and for the other games and what not.
Seems like more work to me. I cant really even consider such an option (your 64gb drive for OS and etc). Most of my games are within Steam and my Steam folder is 62GB, and the last thing I want to do is move games in and out of the Steam folder (hassle) so it's all or nothing. Now add in 8GB for WoT and 25GB for WoW (lol) plus the OS and I already need at minimum probably around a 128GB SSD. That 62GB Steam size is with only 15 games actually loaded of the 43 games I own within Steam. Then lets remember that Diablo 3 and BF3 are coming later this year.. and will surely be played often right, and in the case of BF3 could be Steam as well? So even if one goes the route of a big (and very expensive) SSD boot drive/key apps&games, we will have to rearrange the SSD and move stuff around for whats currently being used more often over the course of the build. Bleh!

I thought we've all moved away from worrying about having enough disk space, hadn't we? Well we had until SSD's came along. To me.. SSD caching seems like the perfect bridge tech till SSD's come down in price and large drive sizes become affordable.
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Seems like more work to me. I cant really even consider such an option (your 64gb drive for OS and etc). Most of my games are within Steam and my Steam folder is 62GB, and the last thing I want to do is move games in and out of the Steam folder (hassle) so it's all or nothing. Now add in 8GB for WoT and 25GB for WoW (lol) plus the OS and I already need at minimum probably around a 128GB SSD. That 62GB Steam size is with only 15 games actually loaded of the 43 games I own within Steam. Then lets remember that Diablo 3 and BF3 are coming later this year.. and will surely be played often right, and in the case of BF3 could be Steam as well? So even if one goes the route of a big (and very expensive) SSD boot drive/key apps&games, we will have to rearrange the SSD and move stuff around for whats currently being used more often over the course of the build. Bleh!

I thought we've all moved away from worrying about having enough disk space, hadn't we? Well we had until SSD's came along. To me.. SSD caching seems like the perfect bridge tech till SSD's come down in price and large drive sizes become affordable.
you can install steam on the SSD, but direct it to store the games in your storage TB drives..? ^ ^
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Seems like more work to me. I cant really even consider such an option (your 64gb drive for OS and etc). Most of my games are within Steam and my Steam folder is 62GB, and the last thing I want to do is move games in and out of the Steam folder (hassle) so it's all or nothing. Now add in 8GB for WoT and 25GB for WoW (lol) plus the OS and I already need at minimum probably around a 128GB SSD. That 62GB Steam size is with only 15 games actually loaded of the 43 games I own within Steam. Then lets remember that Diablo 3 and BF3 are coming later this year.. and will surely be played often right, and in the case of BF3 could be Steam as well? So even if one goes the route of a big (and very expensive) SSD boot drive/key apps&games, we will have to rearrange the SSD and move stuff around for whats currently being used more often over the course of the build. Bleh!

I thought we've all moved away from worrying about having enough disk space, hadn't we? Well we had until SSD's came along. To me.. SSD caching seems like the perfect bridge tech till SSD's come down in price and large drive sizes become affordable.
With the $50 you're saving from getting P67 you can get a bigger SSD to begin with. What are you complaining about? This feature is useless unless Z68 gets to near price parity with P67. Otherwise, I won't even consider it.
    
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