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Since the 1960s, captive dolphins have been communicating via pictures and sounds. In the 1990s, Louis Herman of the Kewalo Basin Marine Mammal Laboratory in Honolulu, Hawaii, found that bottlenose dolphins can keep track of over 100 different words. They can also respond appropriately to commands in which the same words appear in a different order, understanding the difference between "bring the surfboard to the man" and "bring the man to the surfboard", for example.
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By pointing their bodies at the different symbols, the dolphins could make requests - to play with a piece of seaweed or ride the bow wave of the divers' boat, for example. The system managed to get the dolphins' attention, Herzing says, but wasn't "dolphin-friendly" enough to be successful.
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If we successfully decode the language of dolphins and find it's actually structured... Do we cease to believe that we are the only sentient species on our planet?
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I wonder if these captives have ever asked to be free. Oh wait, no I don't.
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I think dogs meet the definition for sentience, they simply have low IQ's.
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I think dogs meet the definition for sentience, they simply have low IQ's.
Dogs and cats and dolphins and whales and cows and rabbits and birds are all definitely sentient.

The question is whether or not they're sapient.
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"So long...and thanks for all the fish..."

Now come on, who else was humming that as they were reading this article?
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"So long...and thanks for all the fish..."

Now come on, who else was humming that as they were reading this article?
Damn I was just about to post that lawl.
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If we successfully decode the language of dolphins and find it's actually structured... Do we cease to believe that we are the only sentient species on our planet?
Didn't they already do that with a gorilla?
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Didn't they already do that with a gorilla?
Chimps are thought to be smarter, having self awareness. I have problems with how they test it, using a mirror and markings. Since we cannot go inside their head there are too many variables and possibilities.

I personally don't believe having the vocabulary of a child or less any indication that they are self-aware beings. There is a fine line between being intelligent or sentient and having self-aware capabilities. I personally think being self-aware is a learned process, though with certain intelligence levels it might appear to come naturally. I think chimps might be the best bet, the rest at least are sentient with a good size vocabulary.
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Chimps are thought to be smarter, having self awareness. I have problems with how they test it, using a mirror and markings. Since we cannot go inside their head there are too many variables and possibilities.

I personally don't believe having the vocabulary of a child or less any indication that they are self-aware beings. There is a fine line between being intelligent or sentient and having self-aware capabilities. I personally think being self-aware is a learned process, though with certain intelligence levels it might appear to come naturally. I think chimps might be the best bet, the rest at least are sentient with a good size vocabulary.
There's no proof of that. Jesus, you're such a Primate fanboy.

I love how people assume that intelligence between divergent species would develop in parallel.

How many humans have learned dolphinese? Exactly. If they're of lesser intelligence for having a rudimentary understanding of our language, what does that make us to them?


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EDIT: All better!
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