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So I finished my first htpc and i just moved into my new house. before I had it attached to my router via ethernet cord because it was close to my comcast internet modem, but now the modem and htpc are seperated on different floors. Should I just suck it up and buy a long ethernet cord or try wireless (stream hd movies).
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50GB 1080p HD Bluray movies need some 7-8MB/s, which can be pretty tight for anything but gigabit ethernet, 3D needs about double. I think WiFi N should be good enough for x264 movies even for more than one clients connected to the server, but it also depends on the signal strength.

A third alternative would be power-line networking. You'd need to buy some adapters, but the idea is you'd have the ethernet information sent thru the power cables already in your walls, thus avoiding to add an ethernet cable. It's a setup that is currently used in homes like yours where ethernet is impractical and WiFi signal has a hard time reaching all rooms.
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50GB 1080p HD Bluray movies need some 7-8MB/s, which can be pretty tight for anything but gigabit ethernet, 3D needs about double. I think WiFi N should be good enough for x264 movies even for more than one clients connected to the server, but it also depends on the signal strength.

A third alternative would be power-line networking. You'd need to buy some adapters, but the idea is you'd have the ethernet information sent thru the power cables already in your walls, thus avoiding to add an ethernet cable. It's a setup that is currently used in homes like yours where ethernet is impractical and WiFi signal has a hard time reaching all rooms.
Not everyone has fancy 50GB 1080p movies drago

actually, it's more common to have smaller rips of your movies at around 4 to 12 GB each - or that's what I do anyways because I don't have 3d in my house and it also saves on storage space (I dont have a 25TB server yet)

So, if you DO have 50GB movies and 3d content, do exactly what drago said, he knows his stuff. but if you have compressed HD content closer to the size I mentioned, get a decent wireless card for your HTPC and you should be fine.
    
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If you're not streaming 1080p content, you can easily get by with a powerline kit. You might even be okay with wireless n, but if choosing between the two, go powerline. Even if you're doing 1080p content, you might get by with either of those two options.

My HTPC was hardwired to my media server and connected to the router via powerline kit. I never tried streaming from the server to a machine outside of the gigabit network, so I can't really account for its 1080p capabilities there.
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long ethernet cable imo, wireless can never guarantee a constant signal and may drop out. Never tested it thought but wireless N might be able to handle the stream through floors.
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Don't do wireless since the signal won't be 100%, if you can go hardwired it would be ideal but you have to remember you can't have a cord longer then 50ft. Powerline adapters are a lot better now since the release. I have no issues streaming 1080p files from my 10/100 network.
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[QUOTE=Stevo;13475622]remember you can't have a cord longer then 50ft. QUOTE]

Why would that be? My house is hardwired with runs of cat5e well over 50ft in length.


If you you have the means and own your own home I would spend the time to do a nice hidden hardwire for reasons others have stated.
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Originally Posted by dragosmp View Post
50GB 1080p HD Bluray movies need some 7-8MB/s, which can be pretty tight for anything but gigabit ethernet, 3D needs about double. I think WiFi N should be good enough for x264 movies even for more than one clients connected to the server, but it also depends on the signal strength.
Note that are different 802.11n stream modes.... 150Mbps, 300Mbps, and 450Mbps. (The specs also allow 600Mbps but no consumer hardware supports it yet.) In theory, 300Mbps or 400Mbps should be able to hand 10MB/s fine even considering that those are peak throughput.

However, the issue with wireless is drop packets with streaming data. A .5% momentary drop packets would cause noticable image artifacts or even picture loss.
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However, the issue with wireless is drop packets with streaming data. A .5% momentary drop packets would cause noticable image artifacts or even picture loss.
+1. Actually, it's not artifacts (well, maybe for ATSC/QAM MPEG-2). With full quality Blu-ray rips (ripped to MKV using MakeMKV), it just manifests itself as stuttering or choppy playback.
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remember you can't have a cord longer then 50ft. QUOTE]

Why would that be? My house is hardwired with runs of cat5e well over 50ft in length.


If you you have the means and own your own home I would spend the time to do a nice hidden hardwire for reasons others have stated.


I was thinking of possibly running the wire under my rug, but i don't know anything about this 50ft idea. If I can't my choice might already be made for me, powerline kit.
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