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You cant compare a PII 555 to a 1090T. In fact, the 1090T at one point was priced just as high as a i7 930.

I've done no such thing.

1090T are 60% cost of a I7 Quad core in NZ and 25% the cost of a Intel hex core. My point is they are cheaper, they perform as such.
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I've done no such thing.

1090T are 60% cost of a I7 Quad core in NZ and 25% the cost of a Intel hex core. My point is they are cheaper, they perform as such.
They're cheaper for a reason though. If you think AMD had the superior product and would charge the same, you would be wrong.

They would be out of business if they charged what they wanted.
     
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It wouldn't be that difficult for AMD to make an X8. They've had 8 and 12 core Opterons (Magny Cours) for over a year now. They're clocked relatively low though for low TDP with so many cores. They're not very suited for the consumer market which tends to be less parallel-processing oriented. If you were in the market for that kind of processing, you'd go for their server hardware anyway.
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LETS START BY KEEPING THIS THREAD CLEAN OF TROLLING. I DONT CARE IF SB or 990X would still be faster.

Ok so why dont we see any X8 Phenom II cpus? they have X2 X3 X4 an X6 so why not just throw two more cores on it? i think they would sell them.
it is possible to throw more cores on a K10 die, but.....

-bigger chip die - big price
-bigger chip die - worse % yields - higher price (radeon vs fermi)
-more cores, less overclock, lower stock speeds
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thuban is already not a small chip... think about it.
i´m sure, 8 K10 cores will eat more power , than 8 BD cores.
    
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Funny because I run both amd and Intel.

There is no denying that phii is not as fast. Even with 6 cores, it gets beat by i7s.

Since nothing uses 6 cores, let alone 8 an 8 core phii would not have been worthwhile at all .
You really don't think that the people on OCN would have passed those chips up if they were released do you? This is OCN. Look how many people flocked to the hexcore line. I think the 8-core line would have been a HUGE success.
     
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=100
The real word differences wouldn't be noticeable. Not mention you don't have a phII either.
I have a PHII and it's slow as crap. Happy?
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You really don't think that the people on OCN would have passed those chips up if they were released do you? This is OCN. Look how many people flocked to the hexcore line. I think the 8-core line would have been a HUGE success.
I did too.

I owned a 1055t at launch , then sold it an bought an I5 650 dual core. The difference in system responsiveness, and game performance was significantly better with th i5.

Phenom isn't "slow", its just not as fast
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I did too.

I owned a 1055t at launch , then sold it an bought an I5 650 dual core. The difference in system responsiveness, and game performance was significantly better with th i5.

Phenom isn't "slow", its just not as fast
Considering I've used an i3 laptop at where I used to work (and owned a PhII 965 rig for a while), I call BS on this. It's might not be as fast in benchmarks/some dual threaded games, but it's not THAT slow to be affecting normal OS responsiveness...either your PC had a problem completely unrelated to the processor or you're super-exaggerating.
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I think it's more likely technical issues with the socket and thermal regulation that prevented it happening. And by the time they had a fix BD was now so close it's not worth investing the money into an older architecture, AMD is just spending the money on Bulldozer now.

Remember the Magny socket was designed to run big high power 8+ core chips, the AM2/AM3 socket wasn't, it was only the power reductions from the die shrink that allowed even the hex cores to fit and run without melting things.
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Considering I've used an i3 laptop at where I used to work (and owned a PhII 965 rig for a while), I call BS on this. It's might not be as fast in benchmarks/some dual threaded games, but it's not THAT slow to be affecting normal OS responsiveness...either your PC had a problem completely unrelated to the processor or you're super-exaggerating.
I3 laptop is like 2.4ghz.

I5 I used at 4ghz.
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