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I get it from reading reputable documentation and apply common sense and my field of expertise, which happens to be veryrelated. The question is, where do you get yours? At least it's entertaining.
Alright, maybe I'm wrong..
Do you mind providing the reputable documentation?

Many people on a 'certain' forum claims that Warden doesn't scan other processes, that and I haven't noticed any calls from Wardens code which would suggest it would do process scanning..

May I ask how exactly does Warden see how external programs interact with WoW?

Hmm, what do you mean by "If you're saying it just scans for bad add-ons or something,"? Warden scans for 'cheating' modules (DLL's) inside WoW, it also checks for modified code in certain places and so on..

Anyway, I could be wrong.
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Again, this doesn't make sense. If you're saying it just scans for bad add-ons or something, and that's all the Warden does, you'd be absolutely incorrect. The wow.exe process is constantly referring to addresses in your memory before going to garbage collection to be recycled. Warden can detect any intrusion or outside process that is interacting with the same addresses. The functionality that you're suggesting would be utterly pointless and we'd have hackers running bots all over the place. Well, even more than now, anyway.
You're right about it not being downloaded - that would just be stupid. That's calling for exploitation.

But it doesn't scan memory outside the process. It doesn't need to, either. It checks that nothing modifies WoW's memory, or at least some specific spots. For example, if you zero out the area that handles collision (and allows mountain climbing), you'll probably trigger Warden and get instabanned. It probably also checks for unexpected window messages and stuff that shouldn't be in the WoW address space (i.e. injected code).
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You're right about it not being downloaded - that would just be stupid. That's calling for exploitation.

But it doesn't scan memory outside the process. It doesn't need to, either. It checks that nothing modifies WoW's memory, or at least some specific spots. For example, if you zero out the area that handles collision (and allows mountain climbing), you'll probably trigger Warden and get instabanned. It probably also checks for unexpected window messages and stuff that shouldn't be in the WoW address space (i.e. injected code).
I believe that's exactly what he was saying. It's not scanning for outside processes but rather abnormal activity at the memory addresses used by wow.exe.
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You're right about it not being downloaded - that would just be stupid. That's calling for exploitation.
Actually.. "Warden is always streamed from the server, unless the warden server is offline", you can google for reference if you need to know.

As for the exploitation, the module is streamed encrypted & compressed and the loading function verifies the module.
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