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Hey everyone, so my friend who is into computers as I am wants me to help him build a new gaming computer. His max budget is $1500 (but he doesnt necessarily want to spend that much), cheaper the better. He will doing CAD, and wants to be able to play the current games as well as newer dx11 games in the future. He said he will upgrade to crossfire later on. Since I dont know much about intel cpus/mobos, if theres a better solution please feel free to share.
Here is what I have selected thus far. Please tell me what you think

1x ocz vertex 2 60gb (2VTXE60G)
1x MSI 890FXA-GD65
1x MSI AMD 6950 twin frozr II
1x cooler master pro gold 800w
1x AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE
1x G.Skil Ripjaws 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz
2x 1TB Seagate barracudas

Total before rebates is $1,100.

Wow, its amazing how much power you can buy today for $1000.

Feel free to comment your opinions or other suggestions But please be respectful and not to flame
Another question that he asked me which I couldnt give a straight answer was: "Whats the difference between X-fire and SLI? What are advantages of one over the other?" I dont have experience with SLI...
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If he's doing CAD, he'd greatly benefit in an upgrade from a 4 to a 6 core. Also, I don't *think* you'll need an 800W PSU.

I'm on my phone though. Someone else will have to get you some links. Does he plan to OC? That's a big factor, especially in choosing a mobo.

I like the choice for 8gb RAM though!

cheers.

*edit: I do believe crossfire is ATI, while SLI is nVidia's answer. But they're both the same basic thing, linking two gfx cards.
post #3 of 18
X-fire is the AMD/ATI multi GPU graphics processing solution usually involving at least two Radeon Chips.

SLI is the same but for the NVIDIA GeForce chips.

At this time the 890fx chipset boards do not support SLI. So your choice of the MSI 6950 if you added a second 6950 would be able to crossfire in this setup.
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What CAD software will your Friend be using?
Some of the software can be run much more effiently on the GPU

As Intricate09 stated for running CAD on the CPU you will want as many threads as you can get, so for AMD that is a 6 core proc.

As for PSU I would recommend a Corsair or PC P&C 750 watt for your listed GPU
never go cheap on the power supply
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post #5 of 18
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Okay, well to show how much of an upgrade he would be coming from is he has an old intel duel core cpu.. He told me that duel core would be sufficient enough but I thought the opposite. Thats why I have that cpu selected.
Secondly, I know that amd boards dont support SLI configurations. I dont believe he will be doing any OC'ing because he just wants to stick to air cooling for now which I told him it would save him a couple 100 instead of getting watercooling right away.

He'll be using AutoCAD as far as I know.
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If hes not getting the x6 then go with the 955 and do a light OC to 3.6 (only real difference between the 965 and 955 is the stock clock). AMD practically designed these chips for OCing, and your temps would be fine up to 3.6/3.7 on the stock heatsink anyway. No reason why he shouldn't OC and get even more performance from his chip.

The CM hyper 212+ will do great if he really is worried about temps, and for around $30 you might as well.
Edited by Polymerabbit - 5/12/11 at 6:38am
 
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I would heavily consider a sandy bridge setup. It wouldn't be much more expensive using a 2500k.

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I would heavily consider a sandy bridge setup. It wouldn't be much more expensive using a 2500k.

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Yeah the performance difference would be pretty noticeable for CAD.

This is a pretty good deal on newegg $495:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.644154

Chuck in This 6950 $233 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-928-_-Product

An extra 4GB ram $55:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104203

This HDD $60 x2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-534-_-Product

The 212+ $47:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product

Corsair TX750 PSU 80+ certified $100 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-006-_-Product

All for $1050

Unlock the shaders on the 6950, OC it.
OC the 2500k to 4.0GHz.

This machine would completely blow away the one he suggested.
Edited by Polymerabbit - 5/12/11 at 7:02am
 
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Originally Posted by Polymerabbit View Post
Yeah the performance difference would be pretty noticeable for CAD.

This is a pretty good deal on newegg $495:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.644154

Chuck in This 6950 $233 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-928-_-Product

An extra 4GB ram $55:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104203

This HDD $60 x2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-534-_-Product

The 212+ $47:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product

Corsair TX750 PSU 80+ certified $100 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-006-_-Product

All for $1050
It's a better build for sure but the problem I see with the combo is the 4GB DDR3, for CAD I would go with 2x4GB.

I'll work a build in just a moment.
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It's a better build for sure but the problem I see with the combo is the 4GB DDR3, for CAD I would go with 2x4GB.

I'll work a build in just a moment.
Yeah thats the only thing I didn't like about it. The 2GB sticks kind of limit you to having 8GB of ram, over 16GB with 4GB sticks, and CAD is one of those areas where more ram actually makes a difference.

This might be an option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-314-_-Product

You could just sell the ram from the combo I suppose.
Edited by Polymerabbit - 5/12/11 at 7:10am
 
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