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ive got the xspc rasa rs240 kit and it keeps my 970 - 4.2ghz @1.31v load at max of 70c folding 24/7
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Originally Posted by selectstriker2;13479280 
ive got the xspc rasa rs240 kit and it keeps my 970 - 4.2ghz @1.31v load at max of 70c folding 24/7

That's great to know, I'm considering it. I'm kinda interested in going with a custom loop, not sure yet!

I'm trying to come up with my own custom loop, I'm looking at:
-Pump: Swiftech MCP655-B
-Block: EK Supreme HF

I kinda picked whatever is best, I have no idea about the rad I should take. I also have no idea on what size of ID barb I should take. This is going to be a CPU loop for now, one day I might extend it to GPUs so I don't want a weak pump. Then again I don't know the physics behind watercooling, perhaps too much pressure if the pump is too strong and the loop too small = leak.

Considering I was originally gonna go with an H70, I'll definitely get the Rasa 360 if I get a all in one kit.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel;13479385 
That's great to know, I'm considering it. I'm kinda interested in going with a custom loop, not sure yet!

I'm trying to come up with my own custom loop, I'm looking at:
-Pump: Swiftech MCP655-B
-Block: EK Supreme HF

I kinda picked whatever is best, I have no idea about the rad I should take. I also have no idea on what size of ID barb I should take. This is going to be a CPU loop for now, one day I might extend it to GPUs so I don't want a weak pump. Then again I don't know the physics behind watercooling, perhaps too much pressure if the pump is too strong and the loop too small = leak.

Considering I was originally gonna go with an H70, I'll definitely get the Rasa 360 if I get a all in one kit.

Get the non "B" MCP655 pump. The B is fixed speed, whereas the "Vario" allows you to choose your speed up to 5, the "B" is stuck at the 4 speed.

That block is the top of the heap, the Rasa isn't far behind and is generally $20 or so less. Up to you and your budget.

You're going to want a rad, reservoir, tubing, fans, distilled water, and some kind of kill coil/biocide to prevent organic growth (algae) in your loop. Radiator choice depends on space in your case (or outside if you wish), if you plan on adding your GPU's to the loop in the future, how quiet you want the system, etc.

If just cooling the CPU, you should be fine with a thick 240mm rad. If looking down the road to increase your loop (GPU's etc) then you may want to look at a 360. People like the XSPC RX series of radiators due to the low FPI which doesn't require high RPM fans for optimal cooling, keeping the noise down. If you want pure performance, you should look into getting the Black Ice GTX series, though these require high RPM fans (1800+) to obtain the best cooling. This set up of course comes with a hefty noise increase over the RX radiator + slower fan.

A lot of people like the Gentle Typhoon series of fans as they're fairly quiet (no ticks, clicking, harsh motor noise etc), have high quality bearings, and high static pressure to push the air through the rad. There are a few different RPM varieties, the most popular being the 1850 RPM (AP15) as it has great pressure and CFM through a rad, yet can be undervolted very easily to be silent. They are a bit pricey at $16-20 each. A cheaper alternative would be Yate Loon fans, apparently Petra's Tech Shop (PTS) and Sidewinder sell the best quality ones (better/quieter motor, optimized fins, etc).

Check out martinm210's fan comparison videos to see how different fans perform and sound pushing through a rad, including a few PTS Yate Loons and Gentle Typhoon fans.

Any reservoir will do the trick. You can choose the functional bay res types, which only uses 5.25 bays rather than other space in your case or something flashy like the T-Virus res (expensive too). Get whatever you think looks good and will fit in your case. You just want the res to be above the pump and feeding into the pump inlet.

The pump already has 1/2" barbs, so you probably want to stick with 1/2" barbs (or compression fittings, more expensive) and 1/2" ID tubing. People recommend the PrimoFlex tubing found on Amazon at $16 for 10' or so with free shipping.
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Very thorough, thanks a lot! +Rep!
    
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I'm not exactly sure what your budget is, but here's some of the best stuff out today:

  • EK Supreme HF or Heatkiller 3.0 CPU block
  • EK Chipset/mobo blocks
  • EK FCX full-cover GPU blocks
  • Thermochill PA, EK, Black Ice SR1, XSPC radiators
  • Laing D5/MCP655 vario or Laing DDC 3.25/MCP355
  • consider upgrading either of the pumps above to a Bitspower or EK mod top for better flow rate and head pressure
  • Reservoirs - your pick for the most part, just avoid anything from Thermaltake, Koolance, FrozenQ, or Primochill
  • Fittings - your pick, barbed or compression - Bitspower for compression, Bitspower or EK for regular old barbs
  • Tubing - whatever you want, just avoid silicone tubing - look for PVC/PVC blends. Clear or colored, your pick again. I'm a huge fan of the MasterKleer tubing available at www.mcmaster.com because it doesn't stain, has a great bend radius, and is dirt cheap (plus quantity discounts)
  • Fans: look for anything that moves at least 45cfm of air with a 120mm fan, and at most 100cfm with a 120mm fan (with all current-gen low fin density radiators - Thermochill PA, Black Ice SR1, EK, XSPC - you will not see additional performance by using fans with ratings of over 100cfm


give me your budget as far as the water cooling loop goes, and what case you plan on putting it in, and I'll be able to list a WC setup tutored to your exact needs
    
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For the cpu block I would chose this!
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Originally Posted by lambecrikas;13480823 
For the cpu block I would chose this!


there are better blocks than that. for the same price. gunner2.gif
    
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Originally Posted by CrimsonMango;13480851 
there are better blocks than that. for the same price. gunner2.gif

I know, but nearly 1-2C difference from the top best and the it looks amazing
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that Noctua is AMAZING.
had one for a long time before I got my RX360 Kit.
Dont paint the fans dude, just replace them with Deltas smile.gif
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The XSPC Rasa kits are "custom" loop kits that you can also mix-and-match later down the line when you feel more comfortable with the idea and get ready to jump into higher grade components.

The Rasa water block is excellent and inexpensive. In the reviews it comes in normally second but only a degree or two behind the top contender. The proice difference is about $25-30 cheaper in itself.

The XSPC radiators are also among the better radiators out there. The RS series (thinner) would require faster speed fans while the RX series work best with slower speed fans. Also usually cheaper than other rads.

Overall the XSPC Rasa kits run way cheaper and are a much better stepping stone into the water cooling world. These kits won't hold you back and as I mentioned, they are expandable. I substituted my XSPC pump for a Swiftech MCP655 pump and I am loving it.
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