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>uses bleeding-edge software
>complains about bugs


yet again another story of "I don't actually understand and agree with the philosophy of my distribution; I just installed it because I could"

If you absolutely must use Arch because you don't like other package managers, you could try the 'don't try to fix it if it isn't broken' method and just not update packages if they work.
I didn't see this before but that is how I use arch. I don't update the system, just the individual packages. If they require updated libs and system files it will do so for me, I will never do a full system update for Arch once I get it stable (as it is now).

This is also what I WARNED people about when using Arch. I tell them if you want to go from Ubuntu to Arch it's fine but be warned that it can break, be buggy, or make your life difficult due to BSD standards. Installing arch, and learning how it works just to learn it is good but it really has catastrophic problems when they appear. Not because of the maintainers but it is just the way of bleeding edge software.

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For some reason, it mounts only the main drive, and to mount the other two, I have to mount them by opening them (it takes a while, that's why I wonder why it doesn't happen automatically)
you need to edit your fstab and manually put them in. I would recommend doing so by UUID.
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post #42 of 118
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Who cares ,you are the minority

I also dont see the need of using Linux
Oh Really? That just shows how uninformed you are... a common trait among windows cattle, since in actuality you use Linux every day. It is a major player on the Internet both as it's backbone and for applications like Apache, MySQL, and PHP. It is the system of choice on all embedded systems like your bank's ATM, your router, many cars, and oh yeah... your phone.
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Oh Really? That just shows how uninformed you are... a common trait among windows cattle, since in actuality you use Linux every day. It is a major player on the Internet both as it's backbone and for applications like Apache, MySQL, and PHP. It is the system of choice on all embedded systems like your bank's ATM, your router, many cars, and oh yeah... your phone.
Basically, most places but our home computers.
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@enorbet2

I find it ironic that my phone is a Windows phone hahaha.
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I really don't get the problems people have with Arch. I have used it for a couple of years now. I update almost daily and I have only had 1 catastrophic problem and that was when I attempted to downgrade xorg for an older fglrx and ran into a dependency issue. I would later learn how I could have fixed it so it was mostly my fault. Maybe it is just the software I choose but I use packages from core, community, multilib the aur and third party repositories, everything but testing.
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Let's try to be helpful and not turn this into some Windows fanboy thread.
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I really don't get the problems people have with Arch. I have used it for a couple of years now. I update almost daily and I have only had 1 catastrophic problem and that was when I attempted to downgrade xorg for an older fglrx and ran into a dependency issue. I would later learn how I could have fixed it so it was mostly my fault. Maybe it is just the software I choose but I use packages from core, community, multilib the aur and third party repositories, everything but testing.
catastrophes could be avoided by having specific hardware, there are too many variables. Maybe the repositories you use aren't in sync as often as the ones I, or others, have used. They could have fixed the problem before the repositories you use get synced. A bonus to using slower synced repositories.

I've seen all sorts of distro's get botched and on my systems. My experience has gotten me the same information as a lot of people will say. A rolling release has the tendency to be more unstable, especially if you have the habit of doing full system updates. However there are a lot of variables that can decide whether or not you get a botched update.

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Let's try to be helpful and not turn this into some Windows fanboy thread.
Woah woah, what are they doing in this neck of the woods?
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post #48 of 118
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catastrophes could be avoided by having specific hardware, there are too many variables. Maybe the repositories you use aren't in sync as often as the ones I, or others, have used. They could have fixed the problem before the repositories you use get synced. A bonus to using slower synced repositories.
Well I do use the rit.edu mirror which is supposed to be the most in sync judging by the mirror status on the arch site, but I do use fairly typical hardware though so that could be it. I also tend to use the bare minimum of applications and tiling wm's etc so it could be that I'm simply not using anything that would bring out graphics glitches for example.

I did have issues with the wireless drivers on my netbook but that was because they were from the AUR so I had to connect to ethernet download the source/package build and make them for the new kernel each time.
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Tried out Debian. Installation process was like pulling teeth. Worse than Gentoo.

The installer apparently only suppors WEP encryption for wireless, so I just went without. I wasn't doing a net install anyway.

Well it turns out that since it couldn't connect during the installation it just decided to use the CD and comment out the repos. I know this because it literally put that in sources.list.

I uncommented the sources and was able to apt-get update, but wait! Now I can't install any packages. Its saying that the package is there but it can't install it.

It turns out that even though I installed the 64-bit version using the 64-bit installation media, it configured apt with the 32-bit repos.

Debian only releases an update once every 2 years, and they can't even get something as basic as "64 bit repos go with the 64 bit release" down? Pathetic.


Trying out LinuxMint Debian right now, and its pretty nice. They've done a fair bit of work removing the blatant stupidity in Debian, without resorting to the cancer that is Ubuntu.
    
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I absolutely agree that Debian's installer is pathetic. Sure it's not difficult, but it's archaic! Nobody thought to merge (let alone polish off) some WPA patches that were written years ago into the main tree for the installer. Just after Squeeze was frozen people suddenly started wondering why it wasn't supporting WPA in 2011!
    
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