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Hey all, I need your collective knowledge to help me out here.

I'm looking for a mobo for my first build. I've been reading and reading threads such as the VRM and Phase power list (http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...ence-list.html) and Chris's Buyer guide (http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...lp-thread.html).

I've narrowed it down to these motherboards. I'm on a budget of ~$130 and need to have onboard video and HDMI, and fit a Phenom II processor. No mATX form factor or MSI Brand please. From reading things on here, I'd also want to try and avoid any 3+1 or 4+1 power phases. I won't be doing any serious overclocking. Maybe some core unlocking and minor voltage upping.

Your input and recommendations are greatly appreciated!
Just FYI, if you are only going to do minor voltage increases w/minor overclocks, then Powerphases should not matter much. Even if your CPU is going to be a 125W stock. The VRM/Powerphase thread was created to warn those who do SERIOUS overclocking on bad boards.

For example, look at my system (i'm using a board with a 4+1 powerphase w/no heatsinks). It runs fine, and can run a 125W CPU overclocked (although I would probably attach some mosfet cooling for that).

I don't want you to limit your selection for unnecessary reasons. Hope this helps.
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Awesome. I'm liking the M5A88 even more....
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Awesome. I'm liking the M5A88 even more....
Go buy it and post some feedback.
   
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Awesome. I'm liking the M5A88 even more....
Looks like a decent board. But, isn't that just a AM3 880G board with an AM3+ socket?
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post #25 of 29
ASUS boards feature OCP (anti-catastrophe for VRM) so they can run 125W processors no matter what in most cases, since the board will protect itself from any catastrophe by throttling processor to remove VRM heat. This may however adversly affect performance.

On a 125W processor with very minor/moderate OC, a good quality 4+1 should suffice as long as it is properly cooled (i.e. if you are going to be using aftermarket tower cooling, the VRMs get no cooling at all which significantly increases chance of overheat & failure).

The M5A88V-EVO does seem a very good choice. It is an AM3+ 880G board, but the most readily available with decent VRM design at a more decent price than the ASRock 890FX board.
post #26 of 29
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Thanks xd_, While I don't plan on doing any extreme OCing anytime soon, I know I will want to push the limits and learn more later. I'd rather have a mobo that supports it now rather than buy a new one when I start.
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ASUS boards feature OCP (anti-catastrophe for VRM) so they can run 125W processors no matter what in most cases, since the board will protect itself from any catastrophe by throttling processor to remove VRM heat. This may however adversly affect performance.

On a 125W processor with very minor/moderate OC, a good quality 4+1 should suffice as long as it is properly cooled (i.e. if you are going to be using aftermarket tower cooling, the VRMs get no cooling at all which significantly increases chance of overheat & failure).
Better than exploding .
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If you are going with the ASUS board make sure that you have enough room between your power supply connector and your HD cage (With the power supply connector connected) . I have ran into problems with ASUS boards when the fit was tight. For some reason the ASUS boards do not like even a little bit of pressure.
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Forgot to add, if you are going am3+, might as well wait for the 9-series (if i'm not mistaken, it should be out in early to mid-June). As I stated before, I appears that the am3+ boards out right now are merely AM3 boards with a different socket. A huge plus is the 990FX is going to officially support crossfire & SLI!

Unfortunately couldn't wait, but I got a M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 w/Phenom II x4 840 (I know it's a Propus ) for $200! Very nice! Makes me want to do this to the air=
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