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You guys are forgetting that if you have silver running in your loop, you can use the water as a weapon to spray down that Jacob character from those terrible movies...
    
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Dionized = RO
De-ionized is NOT RO. Reverse osmosis is removing the impurities by jamming tap water through a membrane that only fits pure water molecules and molecules than that (not many) smaller than them. De Ionized is using resins to adsorb/absorb ions from the water. RO gets most but not all minerals/TDS (usually leaves about <1%, maybe 3-12TDS) and the DI picks up the rest and ensures purity of 0 TDS. Totally different technologies. When you run RO, you usually put one or two carbon filters in-line with it too to absorb organics and chlorine from the water and make life easier for the RO membrane.

But yes, Distilled + silver is all you need. I was just posing the question/statement to see if anyone knew anything better/more than I did about using RO/DI water instead of just distilled.
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Well I did and I didn't.

Chances are that the conditions in your loop were not suitable for bacterial / algal growth (it is a word, I was surprised too). This is great for you, but not always the case in every loop.

It does actually work, as in silver does actually kill microbes. It is not always needed if the conditions in your loop do not support growth.

So in your case, no, this time you did not need a KillCoil. Next time you might.

I'm going to stop there lest the tautology police catch me (it is also a word, and a good one)
Yea when i replied to that one post i thought it was the only reply since its the only email i got. Wasnt till later i realized it was on page 2 already lol.

So the whole point is, if you need one, use it, if not, then dont if you cant justify buying it.
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So the whole point is, if you need one, use it, if not, then dont if you cant justify buying it.
The point of buying Kill Coil is to eliminate any chance of bacteria building up in your loop. I installed my loop without it and after one week there were tiny white flakes floating around in my res, very small but noticeable. So quickly ordered Kill Coil, installed it and flushed my loop. I had to take apart my cpu block and scrub it clean.

My point it get it now rather than suffer the consequence later. It was one of my cheapest purchases so good luck
    
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The point of buying Kill Coil is to eliminate any chance of bacteria building up in your loop. I installed my loop without it and after one week there were tiny white flakes floating around in my res, very small but noticeable. So quickly ordered Kill Coil, installed it and flushed my loop. I had to take apart my cpu block and scrub it clean.

My point it get it now rather than suffer the consequence later. It was one of my cheapest purchases so good luck
Exactly, cost me $4 and lasts forever. Much cheaper than specialty liquids.
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Dionized = RO
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Umm... isn't the point of reverse osmosis to remove everything from the water so it's pure?
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Dionized = RO
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RO water is NOT 100% mineral free. There's still cations ie Na+, Mg2+, Ca2+ & organic stuffs inside RO.
Distilled is pretty close to 100% purity.
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De-ionized is NOT RO. Reverse osmosis is removing the impurities by jamming tap water through a membrane that only fits pure water molecules and molecules than that (not many) smaller than them. De Ionized is using resins to adsorb/absorb ions from the water. RO gets most but not all minerals/TDS (usually leaves about <1%, maybe 3-12TDS) and the DI picks up the rest and ensures purity of 0 TDS. Totally different technologies. When you run RO, you usually put one or two carbon filters in-line with it too to absorb organics and chlorine from the water and make life easier for the RO membrane.

But yes, Distilled + silver is all you need. I was just posing the question/statement to see if anyone knew anything better/more than I did about using RO/DI water instead of just distilled.
I would like to mention that my resident chemical engineer has told me (after I asked), that for practical purposes, RO and distilled water vary only by the existence of environmental gasses that aren't filtered out (air and it's buddies). Our RO system is well-fed, which means it sees no chlorine (chlorine degrades RO membranes).

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RO water is NOT 100% mineral free. There's still cations ie Na+, Mg2+, Ca2+ & organic stuffs inside RO.
Distilled is pretty close to 100% purity.
I'm pretty sure he would argue with you there (from a practical standpoint), assuming the RO system is in proper working order.

As for coolant, I ran 50/50 RO/automobile antifreeze in a system for 3 years (it was a green themed w/c'd G4 mac), only topping it off with more RO water without any issues whatsoever.

I have seen buildup form in systems with aluminum radiators and bare copper heatsinks. Nickel or gold plating seems to eliminate the issue.
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