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Hi Guys.

I just joined this wonderful community and I am hoping to get some input to what would be my first overclocked rig. I have built several PCs, so I am familiar with the process and I'm not afraid to get down and dirty but I have never overclocked anything. The new Sandy Bridge processors seem to have made it very easy to do so, and I have finally decided to adventure into the world of overclocking.

I have some parts already picked out, I just need help with two very important things, the motherboard and the RAM.

I have a 2600k i7 processor, 2GB HD 6950 x2, a 850w thermaltake PSU, and h70 corsair cooler, an 120gb ssd, a 1tb HDD, and a standard dvd/cd drive.

The purpose of this PC will be for gaming, some raw photo editing, and running a virtual server within Windows 7 for learning purposes.

So I need a motherboard and a RAM, things like vrm, cas latency, are all confusing to me at the moment.

Are the top end motherboards really worth the extra $150, boards like the maximums IV and the gigabyte UD7
What do I need to to worry about as far as RAM?

Thank you for any help or thoughts!
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I hope that 850W PSU is a Tough Power series. Ram you want 1333 or 1600, there is practically no real world usage difference going beyond the 1600 speeds. The only time you will see big numbers is if you benchmark with Win7 SP1 and IBT with Linx pack. Otherwise you will see no difference in real world usage. IMO, it's not worth tacking on the extra $150 for the higher end boards. They don't overclock any better than the mid-range sub $200 boards. Asus P8P67 Pro, MSI P67A-GD65, and Gigabyte P67A-UD4 is where most people are sticking at.
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Welcome to the forum!

Look into the Asus P8P67 Pro, or Sabertooth. Along with probably 8GB of DDR3-1600 (or better). Timings...the lower the better, but 9-9-9-24 is just fine for daily usage at DDR1600. You'll want RAM rated for 1.65v or less though, so keep that in mind. 1.50v is the sweet spot.
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I hope that 850W PSU is a Tough Power series. Ram you want 1333 or 1600, there is practically no real world usage difference going beyond the 1600 speeds. The only time you will see big numbers is if you benchmark with Win7 SP1 and IBT with Linx pack. Otherwise you will see no difference in real world usage. IMO, it's not worth tacking on the extra $150 for the higher end boards. They don't overclock any better than the mid-range sub $200 boards. Asus P8P67 Pro, MSI P67A-GD65, and Gigabyte P67A-UD4 is where most people are sticking at.
I don't see Tough Power series anywhere on the description, here is a link.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-106-_-Product

I have always used ASUS and Gigabyte mobos, I am thinking of going for the UD4. Your recommendations truly help, thanks!
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Welcome to the forum!

Look into the Asus P8P67 Pro, or Sabertooth. Along with probably 8GB of DDR3-1600 (or better). Timings...the lower the better, but 9-9-9-24 is just fine for daily usage at DDR1600. You'll want RAM rated for 1.65v or less though, so keep that in mind. 1.50v is the sweet spot.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-141-_-Product

These are the only modules I have found that fit your recommendations, I have never purchased corsair, but I've heard good things from them.

When I am looking at the overclocking aspect, I read in one of the posts that you may not need to OC the RAM to get a decent OC on your processor. I am thinking of going for 4.5 on the 2600k. Will these modules need to be overclocked to keep the system stable? Thanks.
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I don't see Tough Power series anywhere on the description, here is a link.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-106-_-Product

I have always used ASUS and Gigabyte mobos, I am thinking of going for the UD4. Your recommendations truly help, thanks!
This is the Tough Power series:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153143

Though they renamed it to Tough Power Grand. It's still made on the same CWT platform as their older Tough Powers were. There's a reason why it costs more, because it's better. But for the price of the TPG series for an 850W I would rather grab a Seasonic X-650 or X-750 for the price alone. You get a lot more bang for your buck.

Seasonic X-650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151088

Seasonic X-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151087

The only nice thing about the TPG series is that they rounded the corners so you don't get stabbed while handling and installing the PSU. As far as memory goes I think this is the best timings you will get while still staying at 1.5v. I recommend staying away from 1.65v memory though they still work a lot of people had trouble with them when Sandy Bridge launched.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231430
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This is the Tough Power series:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153143

Though they renamed it to Tough Power Grand. It's still made on the same CWT platform as their older Tough Powers were. There's a reason why it costs more, because it's better. But for the price of the TPG series for an 850W I would rather grab a Seasonic X-650 or X-750 for the price alone. You get a lot more bang for your buck.

Seasonic X-650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151088

Seasonic X-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151087

The only nice thing about the TPG series is that they rounded the corners so you don't get stabbed while handling and installing the PSU. As far as memory goes I think this is the best timings you will get while still staying at 1.5v. I recommend staying away from 1.65v memory though they still work a lot of people had trouble with them when Sandy Bridge launched.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231430
Thank you for the suggestion. I started looking into the PSU a bit more and I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139016

The main reason I was going for the thermaltake was because I got a pretty nice discount from where I work. But after seeing some of the other options it sounds like this is the way to go. Let me know what you think. Thanks so much!
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Thank you for the suggestion. I started looking into the PSU a bit more and I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139016

The main reason I was going for the thermaltake was because I got a pretty nice discount from where I work. But after seeing some of the other options it sounds like this is the way to go. Let me know what you think. Thanks so much!
Why not cut out the middle man, and save $10 by getting the Seasonic X750 Gold? It's a better unit even.
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Why not cut out the middle man, and save $10 by getting the Seasonic X750 Gold? It's a better unit even.
I've never seen this brand before, but if you vouch for it then I'll go for it. I ordered my case, cooler, video cards, and RAM today.

I am seriously liking the Sabertooth, it's either that one or the asus pro at this point. Decisions decisions.

As far as the sabertooth is concerned, I want the one that says REV 3.0 right?
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I've never seen this brand before, but if you vouch for it then I'll go for it. I ordered my case, cooler, video cards, and RAM today.

I am seriously liking the Sabertooth, it's either that one or the asus pro at this point. Decisions decisions.

As far as the sabertooth is concerned, I want the one that says REV 3.0 right?
If you don't know, Corsair gets Seasonic to build their PSU's for them. Corsair doesn't actually build their own power supplies. A lot of manufacturers don't build their own power supplies. Many of them are built by OEM's and a lot of companies like Corsair and Thermaltake have contracts with these OEM's to build their PSU's for them. Basically the Corsair is a Seasonic and you're like paying $10 more for the name and service should the PSU ever blow out during the warranty period. I have an old Thermaltake Toughpower 750W made by CWT (Channel Well Technology) and after almost about 5 years it's still going strong. But most people don't know about the OEM's so they just buy what brand they know best. And of course everyone knows Corsair.
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