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I actually like Ceramique over AS5. I've used it for years. I have never been that desperate over temps. When AS3 came out, it was the rage. There are better TIMs yes, but you will never go wrong with anything equal or better than AS5 or Ceramique. Indigo Extreme is the next level IMO, but requires special installation to get it bonded right.
     
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Nothing wrong with AS5, I wont use it because of its conductive properties, ESPECIALLY on any chip that does NOT have a IHS. It can cause it to improperly ground through the chip's serface and ground out through the sink(worst case scenario) and fry the chip.
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Nothing wrong with AS5, I wont use it because of its conductive properties, ESPECIALLY on any chip that does NOT have a IHS. It can cause it to improperly ground through the chip's serface and ground out through the sink(worst case scenario) and fry the chip.
I agree, but when I can use it, I will. For everything else, it's Ceramique or Shin Etsu. I'm new to Shin Etsu, so it takes me years to finally evaluate it, not just, some benchmarks. I don't like to take things apart a lot, but I will spend the time to break-in TIMs. I'm old school. I like trusty old reliable TIMs.
     
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post #64 of 87
It's not conductive. It's capacitive. There is a difference.

And you can get better TIM's for the same price that don't require a 200hr cure time. I'd rather get great temperatures right off the bat than sit there for 200hrs hoping my temps will go down cuz the AS5 has finished curing.

Also, the difference in temps is almost minimal. Do a Google search for 80way TIM test. The difference between 1st place and 80th place was lk 3c.
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It's not conductive. It's capacitive. There is a difference.

And you can get better TIM's for the same price that don't require a 200hr cure time. I'd rather get great temperatures right off the bat than sit there for 200hrs hoping my temps will go down cuz the AS5 has finished curing.

Also, the difference in temps is almost minimal. Do a Google search for 80way TIM test. The difference between 1st place and 80th place was lk 3c.
Capacitive=Conductive. I could care less what you and everyone says, if you can't smear it all over the PCB, then it needs special care during installation. If you don't believe that, then stick with it. No one will use it, simple as that.
     
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I agree, but when I can use it, I will. For everything else, it's Ceramique or Shin Etsu. I'm new to Shin Etsu, so it takes me years to finally evaluate it, not just, some benchmarks. I don't like to take things apart a lot, but I will spend the time to break-in TIMs. I'm old school. I like trusty old reliable TIMs.
I really like Arctic Ceramic. That stuff is amazing. Thats whats on my media system's P4 with the 212+. great TIM!
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I really like Arctic Ceramic. That stuff is amazing. Thats whats on my media system's P4 with the 212+. great TIM!
I agree. That's my base TIM to use.
     
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I really like Arctic Ceramic. That stuff is amazing. Thats whats on my media system's P4 with the 212+. great TIM!
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I agree. That's my base TIM to use.
I agree. Personally I use it because it can be used on exposed cores and is significantly cheaper than the others. I don't care about 2c .
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I agree. That's my base TIM to use.
Great TIM! And Cooler Master's stock TIM that comes with their sinks is also a ceramic type TIM, and it also works pretty good, if I do say so myself. I havbe a tube of it, and im gonna probly run it in Ethylene after I get all my WC parts and when i go to install the loop. Either that or the Arctic Ceramic.
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What about AS Ceramique vs. Tuniq TX-2?
    
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