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Simca, I have a question regarding how sound cards handle outside input. I want to hook my 360 up to some good headphones, and want to find a way to play sound clips through the microphone, obviously without just putting a speaker near the microphone, though. I figure I could just use a sound card and then have my PC sound going out into the microphone...? Not too sure on this one. Another thing is, I was wondering if getting a sound card would eliminate the need for a Dolby digital processor such as the Astro Mixamp or Turtle Beach's DSS2. Will the sound card provide positioning cues even though it's external sound, or can it not process that?
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Simca, I have a question regarding how sound cards handle outside input. I want to hook my 360 up to some good headphones, and want to find a way to play sound clips through the microphone, obviously without just putting a speaker near the microphone, though. I figure I could just use a sound card and then have my PC sound going out into the microphone...? Not too sure on this one. Another thing is, I was wondering if getting a sound card would eliminate the need for a Dolby digital processor such as the Astro Mixamp or Turtle Beach's DSS2. Will the sound card provide positioning cues even though it's external sound, or can it not process that?

Quite a few things here and I'm going to refrain from answering any xbox 360 questions because I'm not too familiar with audio in that department.

Yes, theoretically a sound card should make the use of a DDS2/Mixamp obsolete, but how you'd use the sound card through the Xbox 360 is another question that I'm not in a position to answer. Never did that. Sadly, when playing xb0x, I just use speakers and the crappy headset for team chat, don't use any high end headphones for gaming there. For PC that's a different matter.

Assuming the Mixamp is nothing more than DH and a weak amp, then the soundcard should be good to replace it. If for some reason there's more to the mixamp than simply DH...such as the modification of the mids and highs..then..perhaps it may not be an equal replacement, that's not to say it'll be better or worse.
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Ultrasone Pro 750/
I've been looking at those. Would it be worth it paying around the same price for a set of lightly used Pro 900s? Also, would the low impedance on the Ultrasone cans sound worse than my 250ohm headphones?
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Ultrasone Pro 750/
I've been looking at those. Would it be worth it paying around the same price for a set of lightly used Pro 900s? Also, would the low impedance on the Ultrasone cans sound worse than my 250ohm headphones?

Go with the 900s. I don't follow you on the ohm's having something to do with the quality of a headphone. That's more important for a particular headphone. The ability of a particular driver and the headphone design to fluctuate appropriately and produce better sound.

So you could have a 600 ohm low grade headphone that sounds like crap or a 32 ohm high grade headphone that sounds great. the ohmage is nothing more than how difficult the headphone is to drive. How much power is needed to make the driver move, reverberate or whatever you want to call it.
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My AD700s will be here on Wed thank to this thread!!!

On my onboard audio... :/
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My AD700s will be here on Wed thank to this thread!!!
On my onboard audio... :/

Ya my first round with headphones I went with onboard, I ordered a DG with my replacement pair of HARX 900s hopefully all goes well.
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Ya my first round with headphones I went with onboard, I ordered a DG with my replacement pair of HARX 900s hopefully all goes well.

well i have mini ITX so my only option would be n external DAC redface.gif
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Go with the 900s. I don't follow you on the ohm's having something to do with the quality of a headphone. That's more important for a particular headphone. The ability of a particular driver and the headphone design to fluctuate appropriately and produce better sound.
So you could have a 600 ohm low grade headphone that sounds like crap or a 32 ohm high grade headphone that sounds great. the ohmage is nothing more than how difficult the headphone is to drive. How much power is needed to make the driver move, reverberate or whatever you want to call it.

Great info thumb.gif Can't do much until I get rid of my 990s anyways so I'll keep looking.
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Thread is up to date.

I have returned my content to OCN for everyone's needs and pleasure, but rest assured the issue between myself and the moderators is still unsettled, but we have taken steps moving forward that I hope will soon rectify things.

[Edit] Post updated to most recent version. - Thanks Pioneerisloud for figuring out individual posts can be locked.
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Answering a few general questions I often get:

The Beyerdynamic headphones of the 250 and 600 ohm version and all headphones with simple resistance issues DO run off ipods and smartphones. I want to make that very clear. You can even listen to them at a decent level. Mind you, you won't listen to them at a loud level, but if you're like me, you can listen to them at a decent NORMAL listening level. Keep in mind without an amp you don't be able to drive them appropriately and get the most out of your headphone, especially the lower end of the spectrum, but IMO you don't need a FiiO product to drive them while on the go. I also personally don't recommend walking around with Beyerdynamics or any full sized headphone.

Another issue I wanted to bring up was regarding the differences between the DT770, DT880, DT990.

For the record, the DT880 does not have boosted bass. The headphone is very neutral. The bass isn't very impacting and some bass lovers may not appreciate the DT880s for it's bass. That's not to say the DT880s don't have bass. They very much do and a significant amount more than the AD700s. They're not as bassy as the RX700/900s. If you're a bass lover and aren't too fond of the bass on the DT880s and DO have them amped, I suggest raising the bass levels on the EQ slightly. Even a couple notches up on the low end might bring them up to where you might enjoy them.

The DT990s and DT770s have boosted bass and the treble is also effected because of this. The DT990s have unpleasant treble with the DT990s being the bigger offender here.

Another issue I wanted to bring up was that while the DT880s may not have the impact bass of the DT990s or the DT770s, they do have the bass presence all throughout the low end, even extending down to 15hz. In a sense, I think the DT880s even extend lower than the DT990s and DT770s, despite not having the boomy bass of the other two.

IMO, the bass of the DT880s is enjoyable especially if you're not the type that only listens to bassy music and enjoy the vocals more than the bass. If you really do appreciate the bass and to a greater extent than vocals, I would say opt for the 990s or the 770s.

That's all I'm addressing for the moment, but I'll release a Beyerdynamic DT880 in depth review soon.
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