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post #1131 of 5049
Here is my review of my recent purchase of Bose AE2


The review was first put in Swedish so I just used Google Translate:
Quote:
Was looking for comfort with quality this time.
Did a couple of handy tricks that were not hard to put on or wear for things you do often listen to YouTube videos, play games, and music in general ...

Could not be reached better options than these. The only thing I miss is a microphone for the game, but I may run an external mic because I could not find a headset that kept my requirements.

The sound is good, not what one can demand of the heavier models of soil conditions but for the purpose they're very good, given its small size.

Heat, not directly because they get hot, but it's a small temperature increase around the ear area. Hope this will drop after a corporate using.

Need an extra pair of comfortable headphones that AE2 is the best you can bet on.

Avoid OE2, in store they sounded better, but now that I, contrast them so it can not be measured against these.
In addition, pressing them on the ears had their ears to ache, and they became very hot too.

I would say the sound coming out of these are coming with much higher quality than any general gaming headset.
If not 100% deepness of sound, with that I mean that the sound would become another dimensional of your gaming experience but still these pick up audio in a game and play it very good that other headphones simply don't pick up.
I would say they don't differ much different from Bose home cinema systems so I recommend them for multimedia purpose as gaming and watching movies.
Although if you are looking for something over the top, these phones aren't making that requirement, not even close.
Edited by nicoliani - 8/2/12 at 6:03am
post #1132 of 5049
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Originally Posted by Simca View Post

Answering a few general questions I often get:
The Beyerdynamic headphones of the 250 and 600 ohm version and all headphones with simple resistance issues DO run off ipods and smartphones. I want to make that very clear. You can even listen to them at a decent level. Mind you, you won't listen to them at a loud level, but if you're like me, you can listen to them at a decent NORMAL listening level. Keep in mind without an amp you don't be able to drive them appropriately and get the most out of your headphone, especially the lower end of the spectrum, but IMO you don't need a FiiO product to drive them while on the go. I also personally don't recommend walking around with Beyerdynamics or any full sized headphone.
Another issue I wanted to bring up was regarding the differences between the DT770, DT880, DT990.
For the record, the DT880 does not have boosted bass. The headphone is very neutral. The bass isn't very impacting and some bass lovers may not appreciate the DT880s for it's bass. That's not to say the DT880s don't have bass. They very much do and a significant amount more than the AD700s. They're not as bassy as the RX700/900s. If you're a bass lover and aren't too fond of the bass on the DT880s and DO have them amped, I suggest raising the bass levels on the EQ slightly. Even a couple notches up on the low end might bring them up to where you might enjoy them.
The DT990s and DT770s have boosted bass and the treble is also effected because of this. The DT990s have unpleasant treble with the DT990s being the bigger offender here.
Another issue I wanted to bring up was that while the DT880s may not have the impact bass of the DT990s or the DT770s, they do have the bass presence all throughout the low end, even extending down to 15hz. In a sense, I think the DT880s even extend lower than the DT990s and DT770s, despite not having the boomy bass of the other two.
IMO, the bass of the DT880s is enjoyable especially if you're not the type that only listens to bassy music and enjoy the vocals more than the bass. If you really do appreciate the bass and to a greater extent than vocals, I would say opt for the 990s or the 770s.
That's all I'm addressing for the moment, but I'll release a Beyerdynamic DT880 in depth review soon.

Depends on which DT880's ver your talking about, If your talking about the Premiums then yea, But if your talking about the DT880 Pro-250 then no as they have more bass then the premiums but because of the way they clamp on your head.

I listened to all types of Dnb, dupstep and etc with the Pro-250s and they have alot of bass, they can go deep as well hit hard when the music calls for it. The DT880 pro-250's are not netural because of them having more bass but of course it not slamming bass like the DT770 pro-80's..

The pros also have better sound imaging then the premium's too where people mention that there was a blind spot in the positional when they was gaming with the premium's which isnt there On the DT880 pro-250s..
Edited by admflameberg - 8/2/12 at 3:49am
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post #1133 of 5049
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Originally Posted by admflameberg View Post

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Originally Posted by Simca View Post

Answering a few general questions I often get:
The Beyerdynamic headphones of the 250 and 600 ohm version and all headphones with simple resistance issues DO run off ipods and smartphones. I want to make that very clear. You can even listen to them at a decent level. Mind you, you won't listen to them at a loud level, but if you're like me, you can listen to them at a decent NORMAL listening level. Keep in mind without an amp you don't be able to drive them appropriately and get the most out of your headphone, especially the lower end of the spectrum, but IMO you don't need a FiiO product to drive them while on the go. I also personally don't recommend walking around with Beyerdynamics or any full sized headphone.
Another issue I wanted to bring up was regarding the differences between the DT770, DT880, DT990.
For the record, the DT880 does not have boosted bass. The headphone is very neutral. The bass isn't very impacting and some bass lovers may not appreciate the DT880s for it's bass. That's not to say the DT880s don't have bass. They very much do and a significant amount more than the AD700s. They're not as bassy as the RX700/900s. If you're a bass lover and aren't too fond of the bass on the DT880s and DO have them amped, I suggest raising the bass levels on the EQ slightly. Even a couple notches up on the low end might bring them up to where you might enjoy them.
The DT990s and DT770s have boosted bass and the treble is also effected because of this. The DT990s have unpleasant treble with the DT990s being the bigger offender here.
Another issue I wanted to bring up was that while the DT880s may not have the impact bass of the DT990s or the DT770s, they do have the bass presence all throughout the low end, even extending down to 15hz. In a sense, I think the DT880s even extend lower than the DT990s and DT770s, despite not having the boomy bass of the other two.
IMO, the bass of the DT880s is enjoyable especially if you're not the type that only listens to bassy music and enjoy the vocals more than the bass. If you really do appreciate the bass and to a greater extent than vocals, I would say opt for the 990s or the 770s.
That's all I'm addressing for the moment, but I'll release a Beyerdynamic DT880 in depth review soon.

Depends on which DT880's ver your talking about, If your talking about the Premiums then yea, But if your talking about the DT880 Pro-250 then no as they have more bass then the premiums but because of the way they clamp on your head.

I listened to all types of Dnb, dupstep and etc with the Pro-250s and they have alot of bass, they can go deep as well hit hard when the music calls for it. The DT880 pro-250's are not netural because of them having more bass but of course it not slamming bass like the DT770 pro-80's..

The pros also have better sound imaging then the premium's too where people mention that there was a blind spot in the positional when they was gaming with the premium's which isnt there On the DT880 pro-250s..

From personal experience, all I can say is that all versions of the DT880 are basically all neutral. There are minute differences amongst the ohm versions, but all in all they're neutral headphones. I thought the least of the 250 ohm version compared to all the others.

Let's also be clear that a headphone having bass doesn't mean it's not neutral. It's a well balanced and flat headphone.
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post #1134 of 5049
The differences in the ohm versions isn't so much the sound signature, but the sound fidelity via lower distortion and better damping ratio. The drivers are also different in thinner driver diaphragm wire as the higher ohm versions.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones

both the subjective and objective backs this up. The links are in the guide.
post #1135 of 5049
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simca View Post

From personal experience, all I can say is that all versions of the DT880 are basically all neutral. There are minute differences amongst the ohm versions, but all in all they're neutral headphones. I thought the least of the 250 ohm version compared to all the others.
Let's also be clear that a headphone having bass doesn't mean it's not neutral. It's a well balanced and flat headphone.

Edit: Maybe my view of Neutral is different then what it actually is. Because I had a AKG 702 prior to having the DT 880 pro and I felt the AKG 702s I had was flat and these DT880 pro-250 wasn't.
Edited by admflameberg - 8/2/12 at 4:22pm
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This one:

it summed up my subjective differences as well as I've heard the DT770 250ohm Premium, DT770/600, DT880/250 Premium, DT880/600, DT990/600, DT990/250 Premium all in one sitting. (mini beyerdynamic meet lols)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/513393/guide-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990-models-more
post #1137 of 5049
The Pros have a more compressed sound which leads to better bass. Apparently this is good for studio use, but as far as music listening goes the Premiums are the better headphone.

Personally, I wouldn't call the K701/2's flat. What do you think CK? Would you call the K701/2's flat?
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post #1138 of 5049
the K701 / K702 is sub bass recessed. 'Flat' or neutral is really similar to the beyerdynamic T1. Even then you really have to bump it +3 dB (from 20 Hz sliding off to +0 dB at ~500Hz with the drop off starting at ~ 100Hz) to negate the driver limitation of headphones affecting bass impact + of course how you position the headphone on your head, which also affects bass impact and response.



In other words, truely 'flat' or 'neutral sounding' headphones (in terms of sound signature) are in fact slightly bass boosted.
Many audiophiles however prefer a bass recessed sound, for whatever reason.

Electrical circuit wise, headphones are very similar to speakers, but the psychoacoustics affecting each other are completely different.

I have no issues equalising if it's used for equalising, not to 'bass boost to 11!!!!!
post #1139 of 5049
replaced the 'poor man's solution' with a 'super cheap, super sound' section. As the Monoprice 8323 is better than the HD201 for the same price it's replaced.
post #1140 of 5049
Just got my DTA-100a in and hooked up my Polk RTi-A1's to it.

O_O


Guess I have never heard a decent set of speakers before. All I've ever really had was a logitech Z 5.1 setup (the big one) and then some sony/pioneer systems with paper cone speakers.

I am thinking about trying to build my next set. Woodies are what I had in mind, http://www.parts-express.com/projectshowcase/indexn.cfm?project=woodies.

Anyone ever built their own set?
 
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