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Ok guys, I don't want to edit posts but really, everyone, behave.

We have a very good community that's getting better and better in expertise in different audio fields and I don't want it ruined by some minor bollocks over syntax. Thanks.
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Hey simca I was wondering if you could just give me your opinion on my recent choice. I decided to ditch my g35 and finally get a good set of cans again (used to have a Sony mdr set) and did a lot of reading which includes your op here. I decided on getting the ultrasone pro 650 and when going to buy amazon had a huge headphone sale and I decided to grab the ultrasone pro 750 as it was half price. Again, after reading a lot more I decided I need an amplified port to enjoy them fully so I ordered the sound blaster z in as I read they finally got some quality dacs and amps on it and it has all the features I want (cmss 3d, dedicated headphone jack with amp, and quality dac, and microphone etc) and the reviews said they made up for the crazy Recon3D cards quite well (I found a super in depth review in Russianand they really liked the card ).
I just wanted to know your opinion as you are knowledgeable and straight forward and I like that. I also please note I realize the pro 750s aren't the best for their price range but I got them for half price!
I'm so excited. Everything should be in the week.

I want to make it clear I wasn't trying to attack you. I never wish someone doesn't enjoy a headphone they buy but it's Ultrasone and they are very polarizing so be prepared for the worst..

I think a Xonar DG would of been fine.
    
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Haha man the Internet is so crazy and people are way too touchy. I would never thought you were attacking me if it wasn't for other people saying it. You told me your opinion on a non-personal subject and I like it when people speak their mind as I get thereal iinformation. People take things so personally these days - Fi just because you don't like a headset that I bought doesn't mean I have feel offended. I appreciate your straight forward answer and wish people would just put aside all their little egos and have real, mature adult conversations without being so scared of speaking their mind because someone might get offended.

I have read about the ultrasone experience and am very anxious as it seems most people who have them absolutely no love them and there is a minority that just absolutely hates them. I am I a bit worried as which category I might fall into.

As for the sound card I heavily considered the xonar card but after reading the specs and some good in depth reviews it seems that the sound blaster z should be just as good if not better in terms of dac and amp while it also comes with a few technologies and features that make it a clear cut choice over the xonar. From my research people tend to say cmss 3d is a better gaming experience over Dolby headphone, the beam microphone is exactly what I wanted and to top it off the dedicated headphone jack with an amp on it sealed the deal as I hate plunging and unplugging my headphones/speakers all the time . plus I read the pro 750s are very source dependent and since they are a bright headset they greatly benefit from a warm source and some people said the sound blaster z has an overall warm output.

Again I'm very anxious to use the headphones and see what I think - I appreciate your honest input and will most definitely report back after I've had time to burn the cans in and get the sound blaster in from special order.

Whoa that's a big posy haha!
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The mobile view of this site is very aggravating and I can't seem to scroll to the end of my last post to edit it so here is a double post... I sorry guys!

I wanted to add that what I gathered about the dislike for the ultrasone pro 750s is that people did not give them the required burn in time before they sold or send them back. The people that waited and burned them in for 80-100 hours pretty much unanimously say that takes care of the problem with the highs and mids - boy do I hpe they are right.
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post #1695 of 5049
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plus I read the pro 750s are very source dependent and since they are a bright headset they greatly benefit from a warm source and some people said the sound blaster z has an overall warm output

Yeah, it's not the source eh. It's much more than Ultrasone headphones' frequency response is significantly dependent on how the headphone sits on your head.

e.g. for the PRO650

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/UltrasonePRO650.pdf

Look at the gray lines. The headphones should be parallel at a right angle.
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The mobile view of this site is very aggravating and I can't seem to scroll to the end of my last post to edit it so here is a double post... I sorry guys!

Give this a read: http://www.overclock.net/t/1321512/overclock-net-mobile-quick-start-guide

If not, you can always complain aobut it. Without complaints, we can't improve the site can we? smile.gif
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The mobile view of this site is very aggravating and I can't seem to scroll to the end of my last post to edit it so here is a double post... I sorry guys!
I wanted to add that what I gathered about the dislike for the ultrasone pro 750s is that people did not give them the required burn in time before they sold or send them back. The people that waited and burned them in for 80-100 hours pretty much unanimously say that takes care of the problem with the highs and mids - boy do I hpe they are right.

thanks for understanding smile.gif

so burn in is a 2 part process.

1) the person getting used to the headphone
2) the headphone it self breaking in mechanically

the frequency response does change but it's really small and it shouldn't take more than 40 hours. the way I described Ultrasone headphones doesn't really have anything to do with burn in. it's just the Ultrasone house sound or sound signature.

there are audiophiles that write and review products for websites with a lot more credibility than me and they barely acknowledge Ultrasone existence lol
Edited by bumblebee1980 - 12/3/12 at 3:14pm
    
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post #1698 of 5049
Exostenza,

I see you understand how I give judgment. Most people do not and are easily offended. T'is a shame really.

Regarding your purchase, I don't think you will be disappointed. The Pro 750s are enjoyable if you're seeking enjoyment and fun from your music as opposed to critical listening and perfection or the closest thing to it. Depending on the music you listen to you may find the Ultrasones a bit metallic/tinny sounding. Depending on the genre of music you like, you may enjoy that type of sound. The soundstage is virtual as opposed to actual with S-Logic technology. I've been one of the few people that have never raved about S-Logic, but it works well enough for a closed headphone. For half price, you should be pleased with the purchase. Bass should be enjoyable and the rest of the spectrum shouldn't be too bad either. I don't believe that the amp will help you, but it won't hurt. I haven't tested the Z-series cards yet, so I can't comment on that sound card yet, but do want to hear your impressions on them. Will be difficult since you have not heard other sound cards, I think, but even comparing it to onboard should suffice.
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thanks for understanding smile.gif
so burn in is a 2 part process.
1) the person getting used to the headphone
2) the headphone it self breaking in mechanically
the frequency response does change but it's really small and it shouldn't take more than 40 hours. the way I described Ultrasone headphones doesn't really have anything to do with burn in. it's just the Ultrasone house sound or sound signature.
there are audiophiles that write and review products for websites with a lot more credibility than me and they barely acknowledge Ultrasone existence lol

There are some "audiophiles" that haven't heard Ultrasone's too - like me wink.gif

As for burn-in, that's the way I like to see it, but people will argue against it or for it - a never ending debate.
Long story short, for my reviews I give them a good 20-30hrs before judging them - almost 95% of dynamic drivers I've reviewed have changed.

Even BA drivers change.
I had 2x PFE 232's and I was A/B'ing them - one was brand new (as I had a replacement sent) and the other was used for around 1-2months.
I appreciate all drivers are "unique" in some essence, but the bass presence of my used pfe 232's was insane. It was like listening to a whole different earphone.
Thus, for me, no matter if it is headphone, earphone, or even speaker, I give them enough time to "settle in" before writing a review -or else I feel I'm not giving the audio equipment in my possession any justice.
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@simca

People just need to learn that not everything is about them which would stop them from taking everything so personally. I like how you conduct yourself keep it up.

I will be using the cans mostly for gaming and a decent amount of music. I just really want to have great headphones for games again. At the moment I have the x-Fi extreme music from 2005 so ill have something to base it against. I was told the cans would benefit from an amp... I guess you don't think so eh?

I wanted clean, clear sound with bass for my games and the pro 750 on paper seemed to be the best choice for an all around set of cans. I really hope I like them as you guys have me worried. frown.gif

@Totally Dubbed

Thanks for confirming for me that the sound does change over the burn in period. Literally every review of the Pro 750s that were positive said they waited the 80-100 hours and the brightness, or harshness of the highs and mids, was sorted out to their satisfaction. All of the people who said they didn't like them ended up selling or sending back before the chance to burn in.

Here is hoping! biggrin.gif
Edited by Exostenza - 12/3/12 at 10:35pm
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