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Guys are the Superlux 66x still a good buy?

I'm getting a Xonar DG/x and hoping to get a good HP but can't spend much. frown.gif Previously I owned a Shure SRH400 with a Creative X-Fi Titanium and before that a Sennheisser HD215 with a Xonar D1.

I loved the Senn/Xonar combo very much and it was a bliss, be it music/gaming. The Shure were very uncomfortable for me, too heavy and I primarily play CS/LANs, it was really a big hassle. I think I prefer open back headphones more, what would be some options for me? I really want that open sound/airy feeling that the HD215 gave. It didn't cramp my ears at all and was really nice having it on for hours.

Now I'm currently using a Siberia v2 with onboard, and really looking to change again to a better solution. My Siberia's left cup is giving out, and I'll probably sell it after getting a new one from RMA, or if I can just manage the money to buy a new set of cans. I also play CSGO competitively, so it would be a plus if the headphone has good positional/directional audio. I was originally hoping to get a Sennheisser HD55x, but that would be really expensive for me right now. frown.gif

Edit: Forgot to mention: What I really want is comfort, anything comfortable and open would do. biggrin.gif
There is a new HD681 model that was released this year, Superlux HD681Evo. Got a pair myself as they are cheap as sausage here in Europe (~37$ with free velour pads)...
The superlux are still going strong in the cheap-o-market, and you can always replace the pleather pads with AKG velour pads if you dislike pleather like me.

And if you live in Europe, Beyerlux HD330 with DT770 velour pads have better comfort.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 9/18/13 at 12:55pm
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There is a new HD681 model that was released this year, Superlux HD681Evo. Got a pair myself as they are cheap as sausage here in Europe (~37$ with free velour pads)...
The superlux are still going strong in the cheap-o-market, and you can always replace the pleather pads with AKG velour pads if you dislike pleather like me.

That looks really nice. I'll check out some reviews. I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to HPs, but are pleather like the pads which come by default on the SRH440, then yes I really dislike them. I sweat a lot, and a open design and a less clamp force would be a delight. smile.gif

Are these any like the HD215, open/airy sound? Thank you for the recommendation, rep+. smile.gif
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The Evo sound is pretty warm, so I doubt it would sound as "airy" as HD215.
Compared to my DT770 I would even say that they sound a little muddy (but they are 180$ headphones, y'know).

And here is a pretty good review/modding guide for the evo. Vanilla HD681 is also compared.

About comfort: The HD681/668 models use AKG K-240 sized pads so the inner diameter of the pad is 5,5cm. The Beyerlux that I added to my last post uses DT770 sized pads which have 6,0cm inner diameter, but the shape is different so I would say even 6,5cm ears would fit right in.
And pleather.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 9/18/13 at 1:46pm
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The Evo sound is pretty warm, so I doubt it would sound as "airy" as HD215.
Compared to my DT770 I would even say that they sound a little muddy (but they are 180$ headphones, y'know).

And here is a pretty good review/modding guide for the evo. Vanilla HD681 is also compared.

About comfort: The HD681/668 models use AKG K-240 sized pads so the inner diameter of the pad is 5,5cm. The Beyerlux that I added to my last post uses DT770 sized pads which have 6,0cm inner diameter, but the shape is different so I would say even 6,5cm ears would fit right in.
And pleather.

So the bigger the pad, the more room it gives to my ears and not clamp it with tight force? The only reason I'm comparing the HD215 is because it was really comfortable wearing it, and the sound was really nice paired with Xonar D1. If the Superlux models are anything like a stock SRH440, then I'd want to avoid them. frown.gif I don't like tight fit headphones at all, just want them to hang losely over my head, with adjustable headband if possible. Any other openback headphones you recommend, btw how is the Sennheisser HD558? I can wait for now and save up to get one if it's really good over these options.
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Sorry for disturbing your thread but I'm in a serious need of help. My little brother played with our family's dog AND my PC 360 headset at the same time during my visit at my paren'ts around 4 months ago. The result was a partially snapped cable resulting in the mic being broken and since then the sound quality of my headset has been degrading fast. I think the power delivery to the actual elements was also affected which results in this slow breaking up of the headphones. I can't come up with a better theory as I never drop my headphones or use them at full volume etc.
Obviously, I have to replace my headset now and I've been eyeing on the PC 363D for a while. I don't want to sacrifice any of the sound stage or the positional audio of the PC 360 so I can't buy high-end cans. Is the pc 363D any better than the 360 sound stage/positional audio/sound quality -wise or does the 7.1 virtualisation actually make them worse? I'm open to other suggestions too.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it doesn't have to be a headset just a pair of cans will do as I already do have a separate mic anyway.
Edited by Ukkooh - 9/19/13 at 3:47am
     
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Sorry for disturbing your thread but I'm in a serious need of help. My little brother played with our family's dog AND my PC 360 headset at the same time during my visit at my paren'ts around 4 months ago. The result was a partially snapped cable resulting in the mic being broken and since then the sound quality of my headset has been degrading fast. I think the power delivery to the actual elements was also affected which results in this slow breaking up of the headphones. I can't come up with a better theory as I never drop my headphones or use them at full volume etc.
Obviously, I have to replace my headset now and I've been eyeing on the PC 363D for a while. I don't want to sacrifice any of the sound stage or the positional audio of the PC 360 so I can't buy high-end cans. Is the pc 363D any better than the 360 sound stage/positional audio/sound quality -wise or does the 7.1 virtualisation actually make them worse? I'm open to other suggestions too.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it doesn't have to be a headset just a pair of cans will do as I already do have a separate mic anyway.
I don't really get that bolded part confused.gif
Personally I recommend to stay away from USB-headsets as any decent soundcard can do the 7.1 virtualization as well.
So I recommend.... Wait... What's the budget? And you also seem to have Xtreme Audio soundcard already too.
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So the bigger the pad, the more room it gives to my ears and not clamp it with tight force? The only reason I'm comparing the HD215 is because it was really comfortable wearing it, and the sound was really nice paired with Xonar D1. If the Superlux models are anything like a stock SRH440, then I'd want to avoid them. frown.gif I don't like tight fit headphones at all, just want them to hang losely over my head, with adjustable headband if possible. Any other openback headphones you recommend, btw how is the Sennheisser HD558? I can wait for now and save up to get one if it's really good over these options.
The HD215 earpads seems to have only 5,0cm inner diameter so the HD681/668 should feel more comfy with the larger space for ears.
But the comfy-factor is based on your own ears, my 5,5cm ears fit inside the HD681 pads pretty well but with DT770 my ears barely touch the earpads as they are just that big. And with that, the DT770 wins hands down.
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I don't really get that bolded part confused.gif
Personally I recommend to stay away from USB-headsets as any decent soundcard can do the 7.1 virtualization as well.
So I recommend.... Wait... What's the budget? And you also seem to have Xtreme Audio soundcard already too.

The budget depends on the pricing of AMD's new gpus. I should have around 1k€ to spend next month and I'm only going to buy the gpu and new headphones. So we can assume that my budget is atleast 300€. As for the bolded part when I bought this headset according to reviews and head-fi members the cans with best sound quality had problems with positional audio in gaming. According to sennheiser.com specification of the 363D it is not a usb headset.
     
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The only way for a headset to have 7.1 virtualization is for it to have USB-soundcard bundled with it (integrated or optional).
On PC363D case its optional USB-soundcard (by optional I mean that the headphones also have 3.5mm jacks instead of only USB):


So for headphones, I would go for something like Sound Blaster Z (for SBX 7.1 virtualization and headphone amplifier) and Beyerdynamic DT990.
E: DT990 from Finnish shop
E2: and a little better (and expensive) option: DT880/DT990 Premium.
For more detailed differences of different DT models.

E3/OT: Did the foam disc mod to my HD681Evo, me likes. Removed it completely.
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Any other suggestions? I read about all of them and they just don't sound like something to get excited about at all. Especially on the sound stage department.

Edit: The best of them for me seems to be dt 990 600 ohm as I don't want to sacrifice gaming that much for audio quality. How much would a good amp for them cost?
Edit2: After studying a little bit I found out that a good amp for them costs atleast 3x the price of the headphones itself. Would this be a decent choice for them?
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I don't really get that bolded part confused.gif
Personally I recommend to stay away from USB-headsets as any decent soundcard can do the 7.1 virtualization as well.
So I recommend.... Wait... What's the budget? And you also seem to have Xtreme Audio soundcard already too.
The HD215 earpads seems to have only 5,0cm inner diameter so the HD681/668 should feel more comfy with the larger space for ears.
But the comfy-factor is based on your own ears, my 5,5cm ears fit inside the HD681 pads pretty well but with DT770 my ears barely touch the earpads as they are just that big. And with that, the DT770 wins hands down.

I've medium sized ears, but the problem is I sweat a lot and also it's really hot in my room to the point where wearing a tight headphone really cramps my head. Which one do you recommend, the 681 or the 668- large difference between the two? Also would the lower end Sennheiser 518/515, or maybe a 558 be a good option? I really liked the general design of these headphones, and feel like they wouldn't be that heavy/tight fit for me.
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