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Yeah.. not the gear he's asking questions about though is it

What is it with you guys not reading in context ?

"but that's Audiophile gear for you"

You could have just left that unhelpful piece of junk out of your post and your so called "context" would have been taken as intended.
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You would run the Concero via USB then output from the stereo RCA (phono) outputs into the Valhalla's RCA Inputs and then your headphones into the output of the Valhalla.

Personally based on the fact it uses RCA connections I'd say avoid it, because if you're spending all that money you really want balanced connections as RCA is notorious for noise and defeats the whole purpose of trying to get best quality sound, but that's Audiophile gear for you

Thanks, just wasnt 100% sure

But if I went to a DAC/AMP with XLR connections wouldnt I still need to get a connection to go from RCA/3mm/6mm anyway?
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Virtual surround are all DSP effects applied before output. The DAC just does its normal duty as it would otherwise, thus the virtual surround et al are not dependent on the specific DAC in use smile.gif

Ah ok, I just wasnt sure. Audio stuff confuses me when its not in the PC tongue.gif
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http://schiit.com/products/gungnir
http://schiit.com/products/mjolnir

Balanced DAC and amp. That's "audiophile gear". Man you gotta zip it.

Isnt that kinda over the top for most peoples uses... unless there producing music/recording?
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Isnt that kinda over the top for most peoples uses... unless there producing music/recording?

Certainly.
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"but that's Audiophile gear for you"

You could have just left that unhelpful piece of junk out of your post and your so called "context" would have been taken as intended.

Or you could just not have a hissy fit jumping to the defense of your ilk

I never said all audiophile stuff wasn't good I just said most of it is, which is true but you believe what you want I don't really care as I wasn't talking to you anyway but you felt the need to butt in so just stop it
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Thanks, just wasnt 100% sure

But if I went to a DAC/AMP with XLR connections wouldnt I still need to get a connection to go from RCA/3mm/6mm anyway?

Not sure what you mean here, I doubt any balanced DAC/AMP will be XLR as that's generally used for Mics and Speakers, TRS would be the generally used one and it will stay balanced until your headphones. If you're going for best audio quality then avoid anything which has unbalanced inputs/outputs
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Isnt that kinda over the top for most peoples uses... unless there producing music/recording?

No one producing/recording would use that stuff they'd be using proper interfaces and other external gear eg a Focusrite Scarlet and a Focusrite ISA pre amp for mics and I wouldn't say it's over the top, not at least for the fantasy quests for audio fidelity audiophiles embark on
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Not sure what you mean here, I doubt any balanced DAC/AMP will be XLR as that's generally used for Mics and Speakers, TRS would be the generally used one and it will stay balanced until your headphones. If you're going for best audio quality then avoid anything which has unbalanced inputs/outputs

What ones would you suggest from the site I linked the others from
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No one producing/recording would use that stuff they'd be using proper interfaces and other external gear eg a Focusrite Scarlet and a Focusrite ISA pre amp for mics and I wouldn't say it's over the top, not at least for the fantasy quests for audio fidelity audiophiles embark on

Thats true, but like I said those DAC/AMPs are over kill for normal usage, remember Im only gaming, watching movies and listening to music lol
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What ones would you suggest from the site I linked the others from
Thats true, but like I said those DAC/AMPs are over kill for normal usage, remember Im only gaming, watching movies and listening to music lol

Does it have to be those ?

Personally I'd suggest a cheaper (depends on Australian availability and pricing) alternative and go with a proper audio interface, which will work just as good as any of those DAC's you've listed while also giving you options for XLR inputs for microphones (and phantom power too if your mic requires it) which will make your voice recordings sound better too whilst also giving you balanced stereo outputs for plugging some speakers into as well

Pretty much any interface by Focusrite, Apogee or RME you would be happy with, just check the interface has the inputs/outputs you want, they're all USB and all have incredibly good DAC/AMP's built in especially the Apogee ones
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So if I get the Schiit Audio Valhalla Headphone Amplifier & Resonessence Labs Concero DAC that was previously recommended how do they connect up, this is what always confuses me with DACs and amps. Be nice Im a n00b lachen.gif

An also with virtual surround sound, thats just Windows/game settings isnt it?

http://resonessencelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/CHD-User-Guide-Rev-2.2.pdf

instructions are all in the manual.

connect the Concero to a USB 2.0 port on your PC with a USB A to B cable (should be included). download the USB 2.0 Audio driver (link is in manual or on website). update the firmware then make it your primary device. connect the Concero and Valhalla together with a pair of RCA interconnects. I recommend you disable all Windows Event sounds. install ASIO or WASAPI if needed and config JRiver Media Center or Foobar2000 and you're ready to go.



I think Blue is bit-perfect and magenta is up-sampling.



pretty simple smile.gif
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Does it have to be those ?

Personally I'd suggest a cheaper (depends on Australian availability and pricing) alternative and go with a proper audio interface, which will work just as good as any of those DAC's you've listed while also giving you options for XLR inputs for microphones (and phantom power too if your mic requires it) which will make your voice recordings sound better too whilst also giving you balanced stereo outputs for plugging some speakers into as well

Pretty much any interface by Focusrite, Apogee or RME you would be happy with, just check the interface has the inputs/outputs you want, they're all USB and all have incredibly good DAC/AMP's built in especially the Apogee ones

Anything on that site, probably the best Aus site

Aus pricing is over the top, we get charged heaps lol. I use a USB mic tongue.gif so its just for headphones and my speakers, which both use 3mm jacks biggrin.gif
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http://resonessencelabs.com/software-updates-for-concero/

instructions are all in the manual.

you basically connect the Concero to a USB 2.0 port on your PC with a USB A to B cable (should be included). download the USB 2.0 Audio driver (link is in manual or on website). update the firmware then make it your primary device. bridge the Concero and Valhalla with a pair of RCA interconnects.I recommend you disable all Windows Event sounds. in JRiver Media Center, Foobar2000 or whatever media player just setup WASAPI or ASIO and you're ready to go.
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I think Blue is bit-perfect and magenta is up-sampling. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

pretty simple smile.gif

Ah cool, thats easy, I was just wondering coz I know some home audio AMPs and stuff can be a total pita to setup mad.gif
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Anything on that site, probably the best Aus site

Aus pricing is over the top, we get charged heaps lol. I use a USB mic tongue.gif so its just for headphones and my speakers, which both use 3mm jacks biggrin.gif

Ok just for an example from an Australian DJ website there's Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Price: $189.00 which to be honest isn't a bad price

I can't really pick anything off the site you listed as it's all the stuff I'm trying to convince you against buying so without checking out reviews and tests I wouldn't be able to reccomend any of those products to you, they'll do the job just fine for you I'm not arguing that, but for the price you're paying you won't hear much if any difference between those and this focusrite. Now I'm not saying some of those products aren't worth the money as I know little about their components and tests results to say so but the price vs improved audio will be so miniscule you really wouldn't notice it unless you've trained yourself to know what to listen for and even that's a stretch and any differences you do perceive yourself to hear are all in the mind
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Anything on that site, probably the best Aus site

Aus pricing is over the top, we get charged heaps lol. I use a USB mic tongue.gif so its just for headphones and my speakers, which both use 3mm jacks biggrin.gif
Ah cool, thats easy, I was just wondering coz I know some home audio AMPs and stuff can be a total pita to setup mad.gif

the Concero is USB bus powered so all you need to do is connect it to your PC via USB.

take the vacuum tubes out of the boxes they came in and align the pins up with the socket and press down firmly (shorter tubes go in the front, taller tubes go in the back). connect the Valhalla to the Concero with a pair of RCA interconnects then plug the Valhalla into the wall and power up. tubes should start to glow shortly after.
    
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