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Would be nice if you could add a section for people interested in Music production( or is that the same as audiophile). What about M-Audio Audiophile cards and studio monitors?
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Don't bother getting an amp if you don't need it. Especially a 50 dollar amp.

I was thinking the same thing. Later down the line I might get a Fiio A1 to start my Amp journey.thumb.gif
    
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Would be nice if you could add a section for people interested in Music production( or is that the same as audiophile). What about M-Audio Audiophile cards and studio monitors?

Music production is way different -- M-Audio is a pretty solid choice for their external interfaces and stereo monitors.

Their BX5a outperforms AudioEngine's entire line-up IMHO.
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I just got the M-Audio DSM1 for $368, and they sound better than any computer speakers I've ever heard by far. I can't comment on Audio Engine since I've never heard them. The M-Audio BX5 D2 also sound good, but you'll probably want a sub to go with them.
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I just got the M-Audio DSM1 for $368, and they sound better than any computer speakers I've ever heard by far. I can't comment on Audio Engine since I've never heard them. The M-Audio BX5 D2 also sound good, but you'll probably want a sub to go with them.

AudioEngine is way overrated IMHO. I recommended my freshman-year roommate a pair of A5s based on the praise they were getting and he ended up pretty disappointed. A floormate of ours had the BX5as that wrecked them in every respect, as did my lowly Infinity Primus P152s (with vintage Denon receiver) at the time. The AudioEngines have too much bloat and lack detail/refinement.

My roommate made a similar mistake with the A2s.. very overrated, certainly not worth the money they ask for.

When it comes to affordable active computer speakers I generally think M-Audio or KRK is the way to go. With a more lenient budget, Adam monitors are worth looking at.
Edited by friend'scatdied - 12/9/11 at 5:43am
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post #296 of 5049
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I just got the M-Audio DSM1 for $368, and they sound better than any computer speakers I've ever heard by far. I can't comment on Audio Engine since I've never heard them. The M-Audio BX5 D2 also sound good, but you'll probably want a sub to go with them.

AudioEngine is way overrated IMHO. I recommended my freshman-year roommate a pair of A5s based on the praise they were getting and he ended up pretty disappointed. A floormate of ours had the BX5as that wrecked them in every respect, as did my lowly Infinity Primus P152s (with vintage Denon receiver) at the time. The AudioEngines have too much bloat and lack detail/refinement.

My roommate made a similar mistake with the A2s.. very overrated, certainly not worth the money they ask for.

When it comes to affordable active computer speakers I generally think M-Audio or KRK is the way to go. With a more lenient budget, Adam monitors are worth looking at.

Not at all. They're worth their price. The BX5A's are normally 250 dollar speakers unless you can get a deal on them for 150. That would put it between the A2's and the A5's. There's a lot to be answered as well in your predicament. What DAC was being used with the A2s? What kind of music was he listening to when he made that purchase? Was the same DAC being used when he moved onto the BX5As?

On top of that the BX5A is a monitor whereas the Audioengines are not. This in turn makes the frequency response much different.

Vocals on the Audioengines sound much better. The voice comes across powerful and weighty while the BX5A makes them sound light.

Bass wise the Audioengines are hands down winners (not counting subwoofers added).

The BX5A is harsher on audio and is very revealing. A poorly recorded song will sound terrible on the BX5A's whereas the Audioengine is more forgiving. Likewise, the Audioengine has a much more laid back sound to it. The BX5A's are more analytical I think, but I think do provide more...eh..clarity and crispness of sound than the Audioengines.

So, I don't think the Audioengines are overpriced. I think the BX5A's are just priced very well and go on sale much more than Audioengines (never go on sale).

Different sounds for different people with different needs.
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post #297 of 5049
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Not at all. They're worth their price. The BX5A's are normally 250 dollar speakers unless you can get a deal on them for 150. That would put it between the A2's and the A5's. There's a lot to be answered as well in your predicament. What DAC was being used with the A2s? What kind of music was he listening to when he made that purchase? Was the same DAC being used when he moved onto the BX5As?
On top of that the BX5A is a monitor whereas the Audioengines are not. This in turn makes the frequency response much different.
Vocals on the Audioengines sound much better. The voice comes across powerful and weighty while the BX5A makes them sound light.
Bass wise the Audioengines are hands down winners (not counting subwoofers added).
The BX5A is harsher on audio and is very revealing. A poorly recorded song will sound terrible on the BX5A's whereas the Audioengine is more forgiving. Likewise, the Audioengine has a much more laid back sound to it. The BX5A's are more analytical I think, but I think do provide more...eh..clarity and crispness of sound than the Audioengines.
So, I don't think the Audioengines are overpriced. I think the BX5A's are just priced very well and go on sale much more than Audioengines (never go on sale).
Different sounds for different people with different needs.

I humbly disagree on what you find to be strengths of the A5s. I think the bloat across the AudioEngine line intrudes on the vocal performance, especially with regards to male vocal performance. The A2s are serious offenders, with an obscene emphasis on upper bass (for the size) that I assume is designed to compensate for the small cabinet but ends up coming off as overbearing. The A2 and A5 have uninspiring treble performance too IME, maybe because of the mid-low emphasis in the FR response.

The only affordable active monitors I could recommend on the merit of value and sound are from M-Audio, KRK and (at a slightly higher price point) Adam monitors. I think these options soundly trump the AudioEngine line in most respects, and that there's no real reason to go for the A2s or A5s (especially when you can build a really nice passive setup for the latter's price).

Perhaps just differences of opinion. I found that people that listened to the AudioEngines (both A5 and A2) and M-Audio BX5as side-by-side preferred the latter by a landslide, and these weren't studio people either. I recommended AudioEngine in the past (again, both the A5 and the A2) and now I think you can do better for their price.

This may sound audacious but I think the only things AudioEngine's compare favorably to are consumer-oriented entry-level setups from the likes of Harman Kardon, JBL, Bose et alia.
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Have you given the AKG HD 272s a shot? Seems to be amazing gaming headphones but need a good source/amp.
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Not at all. They're worth their price. The BX5A's are normally 250 dollar speakers unless you can get a deal on them for 150. That would put it between the A2's and the A5's. There's a lot to be answered as well in your predicament. What DAC was being used with the A2s? What kind of music was he listening to when he made that purchase? Was the same DAC being used when he moved onto the BX5As?
On top of that the BX5A is a monitor whereas the Audioengines are not. This in turn makes the frequency response much different.
Vocals on the Audioengines sound much better. The voice comes across powerful and weighty while the BX5A makes them sound light.
Bass wise the Audioengines are hands down winners (not counting subwoofers added).
The BX5A is harsher on audio and is very revealing. A poorly recorded song will sound terrible on the BX5A's whereas the Audioengine is more forgiving. Likewise, the Audioengine has a much more laid back sound to it. The BX5A's are more analytical I think, but I think do provide more...eh..clarity and crispness of sound than the Audioengines.
So, I don't think the Audioengines are overpriced. I think the BX5A's are just priced very well and go on sale much more than Audioengines (never go on sale).
Different sounds for different people with different needs.
Nope, AudioEngine is just overpriced IMO. I'd rather get a pair of KRK Rokit 5 or even the BX8a, and both are lower than the A5.
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Have you given the AKG HD K272s a shot? Seems to be amazing gaming headphones but need a good source/amp.
There are better gaming headphones for that price range IMO(considering amp cost); Also, they're closed.
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