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If your pockets aren’t deep enough to fight a corporate giant, then sue the little guys for milk money.
That’s the idea behind a patent company’s legal threats against several independent iPhone app programmers rather than Apple.
Several iOS programmers on Friday morning said they received a legal complaint from Lodsys, a patent-holding firm.

Lodsys is accusing the developers of infringing a patent related to the usage of an “upgrade†button that customers can use to upgrade from a free version of an app to a paid version, or to make purchases from within an app.
Apple provides the payment technology that programmers embed inside their apps, but the Lodsys complaint is instead aimed squarely at the programmers using Apple’s in-app purchasing system.
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I hate those little companies that do that
Edited by srsdude - 5/13/11 at 4:47pm
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After working for a year as a Patent Examiner, I can tell you that the system is broke!

7 million patents is far too burdensome for anyone to actually search through, and most of the patented material is completely ridiculous, as are most requests for patents. The legal interpretation of words is insane, litigation is insanely expensive, rules that work well for the drug industry don't work for others... it's just flat out broken.

I feel like patent apps should be read by several experienced examiners and given a thumbs up or thumbs down by majority vote lol. You can say the same for litigation. Opinions are subjective, but I'd rather have a subjective process than the current rules. It would be a heck of a lot more efficient, you wouldn't see a 3 year backlog I can tell ya that much.

It's basically opinion right now anyway, except it's done by one examiner who has to spend hours and hours looking for existing material that has the parts exactly as worded. 9 times out of ten you look at it and go nope, already been done, now I just need to spend 7 hours rejecting these 130 claims...
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After working for a year as a Patent Examiner, I can tell you that the system is broke!

7 million patents is far too burdensome for anyone to actually search through, and most of the patented material is completely ridiculous, as are most requests for patents. The legal interpretation of words is insane, litigation is insanely expensive, rules that work well for the drug industry don't work for others... it's just flat out broken.

I feel like patent apps should be read by several experienced examiners and given a thumbs up or thumbs down by majority vote lol. You can say the same for litigation. Opinions are subjective, but I'd rather have a subjective process than the current rules. It would be a heck of a lot more efficient, you wouldn't see a 3 year backlog I can tell ya that much.
Patents were used to protect small businesses or individuals. Now huge crapporrations have turned the system inside out.

I wish the government would do something about that, but I guess I'm dreaming.
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http://ip.com/patapp/US20070043632

Its funny how hard it is to get a pharmaceutical patent and it only lasts 20 years, but they grant this guy a patent for dribble on a paper that isn't a real product a lifetime patent.
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OMG people bust their butt making apps for a market that is 1/10th the size it proclaims to be and they go and mess with them?
This is like when people start dumping cable tv right and left and talent agencies start shaking down their clients.
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I thought that the market place was soooooo huge according to apple fans.
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they don't even make anything themselves!

Bunch of cheapskates
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they don't even make anything themselves!

Bunch of cheapskates
Well see here's the problem. Everything is run mostly by corporations. They've taken over all our food. You can go to small owned places but if you want something affordable you have to eat at the corporate table. There's only a few pathways to take. You can either make life possible, or more enjoyable or more interesting. But corporations want growth and to be completely in control of something people need. They are like the ultimate expression of gangs of people cooperating to find some kind of "profit" or gain from people and they are quite insecure. They don't want any competition. Government doesn't want anything to ever change. They simply want to be in charge and you have to slaughter them to get them out of being in charge. They are quite violent and use mostly lies and promises. But we got a problem with the government model and the corporate model because they no longer work and they will do whatever it takes to make it work no matter who gets hurt.

Corporations want to get between everything we need and want and stamp out anybody who wants to change who supplies it. Government wants to outviolence crime and organized crime but they become the crime and organized crime they are trying to stop.

So you got two quite insane groupthinks adopting quite insane strategies to ensure their survival and hold onto some kind of identity within the world. And you got people. It isn't going to work.

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I thought that the market place was soooooo huge according to apple fans.
Do you know of a bigger App market out there? No? Then what are you even posting this crap in here for? This has nothing to do with the size of the market, it has EVERYTHING to do with a company trying to swindle independant developers out of money for using a commonly used interface.
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