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Once bulldozer is out they will release an Athlon x6 just to get rid of poor quality hexa cores. Maybe
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post #12 of 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Stroker View Post
Once bulldozer is out they will release an Athlon x6 just to get rid of poor quality hexa cores. Maybe
Will they really?
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post #13 of 70
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Originally Posted by amurph0 View Post
Examples?

And different versions of the same chip don't count (like 1055T vs 1090T vs 1100T) because they are just a different clock and multiplier setting basically.

This is about AMD making a 6-core Athlon II, which is completely different to just changing the clock. (And a lot more expensive to develop).
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Because there is no real reason to.

AMD knows that if someone actually wants a hex-core they'll most likely get a Phenom II. Why make a cheaper chip that competes with their own chip?

in his example : athlon 2 and phenom 2.
in all seriousness( i'm too lazy to search), does l3 actually make a difference in everyday task? and i mean a real difference not 5-20% extra fps in a game which is all i have ever heard posted about l3 cache.
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processors can run cooler without level 3 cache

also in theory a Athlon X6 energy efficient hexacore running at 2.5 GHZ and a 65w TDP would be very attactive to alot of people, both in the private and public sector.
    
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AMD would be canibalizing their own CPU lineup by offering a 6-core CPU at the entry level point.

The whole sale point of the Thuban is to offer 6-core computing at an affordable price, but it is still AMD's consumer top-end CPU.
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Originally Posted by PanicProne View Post
AMD would be canibalizing their own CPU lineup by offering a 6-core CPU at the entry level point.

The whole sale point of the Thuban is to offer 6-core computing at an affordable price, but it is still AMD's consumer top-end CPU.
but they also sent out 6cores locked down to quads
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does l3 actually make a difference in everyday task? and i mean a real difference not 5-20% extra fps in a game which is all i have ever heard posted about l3 cache.
I was reading somewhere a test between a Phenom II and Athlon II clocked at same speeds with the only difference being L3 cache that there wasn't too much of a performance difference. Basically the L3 helps in cache misses or something. It was concluded basically there's less than a 10% performance difference (I think it may have been closer to 5%) with the L3.

Too bad the Athlon II doesn't have Black Editions in it's lineup, otherwise I would have been all over that. To be honest I only got the Phenom because it was a BE and cheap when I bought it.
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but they also sent out 6cores locked down to quads
Er, what? No. Those were never released to consumers. There's no Thubans with disabled cores that you can buy.
    
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I was reading somewhere a test between a Phenom II and Athlon II clocked at same speeds with the only difference being L3 cache that there wasn't too much of a performance difference. Basically the L3 helps in cache misses or something. It was concluded basically there's less than a 10% performance difference (I think it may have been closer to 5%) with the L3.

Too bad the Athlon II doesn't have Black Editions in it's lineup, otherwise I would have been all over that. To be honest I only got the Phenom because it was a BE and cheap when I bought it.
Deneb scales with frequency much better than Propus, especially at 3GHz+. I'd never buy Propus simply because I find its IPC to be too low, not to mention I'm not particularly wowed by the 3.6GHz average overclocks they get.
    
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Er, what? No. Those were never released to consumers. There's no Thubans with disabled cores that you can buy.
Axel is right.

They were considering it, but they were canceled.

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/8025/
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