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post #21 of 73
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Originally Posted by Juelz;13500926 
If you ask me, patience is a virtue. Just because Intel likes to build hype doesn't mean AMD lack of info is going to be short coming. Even if bulldozer isn't going to out preform sandy bridge, you can put my money on it that it's going to have a better price/performance ratio and that what the average user looks for. I'm happy with my Phenom II 955 because it does everything I want it to do. Congrads on you switch to Intel, you won't be disappointed with the parts. As for others like me, I'll wait because I've only got time.

I agree with what Juelz and the OP says. Bulldozer is taking some time to get out, Sandy bridge is here and is dominating the cpu field. People always forget that PC game is always changing. Ivy bridge is already on the way and sandy bridge was like just released. i maintain the fact that I'm not going to buy a single new part unless I'm getting a 100%+ performance increase. Not everybody has money to throw around and have no choice but to wait for bulldozer if they want a decent upgrade. If I had the money to buy Sandy Bridge, I would. Ask a broke college student, I don't have the money so it's bulldozer for me. people need to chill out some. It's not your money or your rig so stop trying to give the op a hard time. Like I said, if I had the money, SB in a heart beat.
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post #22 of 73
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Up until a couple of weeks ago, if you would have asked me "What's your next upgrade", I would have said Bulldozer. However, with AMD's utter lack of publicity, all I see is a scared kid who knows that their product is "better, but not better than the competition". Basically, Intel is the only SURE THING when it comes to performance. That's what I need, a sure thing. AMD's lack of interaction with their community visavi showing what Bulldozer is capable of seems really sketch, as Intel has no problem giving preliminary benchmarks at all, and they always deliver.

Who knows though, I may be wrong about the whole thing...but I really don't see Bulldozer outperforming Sandy Bridge. This is why I've ordered my Intel parts already.
It's just going to be phenom x3 all over again anyway

I DO, and have ALWAYS loved the price/performance value of AMD. However, when it comes to reliability, architecture advantage, and high performance, intel is simply better.

Even IF Bulldozer outperforms sandy, they're going to be outperformed a couple months later by ivy.

It's like how AMD will always have the slighter edge on GPU's vs nVidia.

Intel will always have the slighter edge on AMD's CPU's.

The only way to change that is with a huge breakthrough.

I think AMD would do much better if they stopped reusing, and modifying the same old architecture, and just created something new.

Using the same architecture, and just adding 'more cores' doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be better. It's also about how efficient each of those cores are.
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post #23 of 73
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It's just going to be phenom x3 all over again anyway

I DO, and have ALWAYS loved the price/performance value of AMD. However, when it comes to reliability, architecture advantage, and high performance, intel is simply better.

Even IF Bulldozer outperforms sandy, they're going to be outperformed a couple months later by ivy.

It's like how AMD will always have the slighter edge on GPU's vs nVidia.

Intel will always have the slighter edge on AMD's CPU's.

The only way to change that is with a huge breakthrough.

I think AMD would do much better if they stopped reusing, and modifying the same old architecture, and just created something new.

Using the same architecture, and just adding 'more cores' doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be better. It's also about how efficient each of those cores are.
That take a big r&d which amd does not have
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post #24 of 73
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It's just going to be phenom x3 all over again anyway

I DO, and have ALWAYS loved the price/performance value of AMD. However, when it comes to reliability, architecture advantage, and high performance, intel is simply better.

Even IF Bulldozer outperforms sandy, they're going to be outperformed a couple months later by ivy.

It's like how AMD will always have the slighter edge on GPU's vs nVidia.

Intel will always have the slighter edge on AMD's CPU's.

The only way to change that is with a huge breakthrough.

I think AMD would do much better if they stopped reusing, and modifying the same old architecture, and just created something new.

Using the same architecture, and just adding 'more cores' doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be better. It's also about how efficient each of those cores are.
how do you know this isnt going to be the big breakthrough? havent they been working on this for quite a few years? and isnt bulldozer completely new?
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post #25 of 73
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Originally Posted by H3XUS View Post
It's just going to be phenom x3 all over again anyway

I DO, and have ALWAYS loved the price/performance value of AMD. However, when it comes to reliability, architecture advantage, and high performance, intel is simply better.

Even IF Bulldozer outperforms sandy, they're going to be outperformed a couple months later by ivy.

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The only way to change that is with a huge breakthrough.

I think AMD would do much better if they stopped reusing, and modifying the same old architecture, and just created something new.

Using the same architecture, and just adding 'more cores' doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be better. It's also about how efficient each of those cores are.
Why do people always mention Ivy Bridge? It seems as if people forget that AMD is releasing Bulldozer Enhanced in Q4 2011.
    
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post #26 of 73
This is how I see it.
Price/Preformance = AMD
Everything else = Intel
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post #27 of 73
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This is how I see it.
Price/Preformance = AMD
Everything else = Intel
thing is amd is losing in price/performance now.
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post #28 of 73
I think It is stupid with all this waiting thing.

Plus, now that you've got the P67 board, you can stick a Z68 in it

Also, I'm pretty sure Ivy Bridge will fit in the LGA 1155 socket too, at least according to some rumors. So since you got this, you are smart. Because a couple months after people buy a whole new rig with bulldozer, you can grab an Ivy Bridge, stick it in your mobo, and laugh in their faces!!
post #29 of 73
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Up until a couple of weeks ago, if you would have asked me "What's your next upgrade", I would have said Bulldozer. However, with AMD's utter lack of publicity, all I see is a scared kid who knows that their product is "better, but not better than the competition". Basically, Intel is the only SURE THING when it comes to performance. That's what I need, a sure thing. AMD's lack of interaction with their community visavi showing what Bulldozer is capable of seems really sketch, as Intel has no problem giving preliminary benchmarks at all, and they always deliver.

Who knows though, I may be wrong about the whole thing...but I really don't see Bulldozer outperforming Sandy Bridge. This is why I've ordered my Intel parts already.
You have an X6, are considering an upgrade, but unwilling to wait for BD? It's not going to be THAT long before official releases are made, during which time your X6 is STILL going to be a good CPU. If you ask me, upgrading to SB now is a waste if you're curious about the BD/SB comparison. What CAN'T you do with your current X6 that you could do with a SB?
    
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post #30 of 73
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You have an X6, are considering an upgrade, but unwilling to wait for BD? It's not going to be THAT long before official releases are made, during which time your X6 is STILL going to be a good CPU. If you ask me, upgrading to SB now is a waste if you're curious about the BD/SB comparison. What CAN'T you do with your current X6 that you could do with a SB?
benchmarks wont be as good with the x6
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