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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
I disagree. If AMD publicly came out and released official benchmarks, or held a keynote or something, it would be a gamechanger. Personally I think they are procrastinating because they know they don't quite measure up, and will continue playing the price/performance card (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Maybe they think that if they release too much info that people will stop buying their Phenom II CPU's and wait for Bulldozer. I'm sure there are lots of those CPU's in the market still.
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post #52 of 73
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Well what do you propose they do? And how do you disagree with the fact that their current stock will become un-sellable if they release this sort of info too early?
Their current stock is already unsellable when comparing to the better performance of intels current stock at nearly the same price.
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post #53 of 73
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No offense but, I'd imagine agreeing with him shouldn't be too hard when he's you.
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post #54 of 73
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Their current stock is already unsellable when comparing to the better performance of intels current stock at nearly the same price.
It still sells well enough here as part of OEM PCs in PC shops here to uninformed customers, which make up for a majority of the PC buying market.

And BTW, great decision there. If you really do own the X6 rig in your sig (and aren't just trolling like I think you are), you do realise your current motherboard is a BIOS flash away from supporting the Bulldozers, right? And you went with a whole new build over waiting one month to drop a much better CPU in your current PC?

Good job bro...
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post #55 of 73
I will support AMD no matter what, I don't ever buy latest and greatest just to brag about benchmarks. It's really pointless when you have a perfectly good PC in the first place to spend more money on another PC just to be a little better.

I am glad you have that much money to spend and hope you enjoy your new Intel machine. Hopefully, for your sake, AMD doesn't pull out a huge upset or you might be pissed for not waiting.

As for an x6 at 4 GHz being bottlenecked... you've got to be kidding me. I had the same setup basically with 2 overclocked 5850s (that ran about as fast as stock 5870s) and never saw anything that remotely looked like a bottleneck.
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post #56 of 73
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none that i know of.
AMD has lost the p/p status
the x6 gets killed by even the quad intels And they are not that high the last time i checked.
dont get me wrong i love my x6
i just feel that the price/performance can only carry amd for so long.
amd x6 is only better in multi core apps in some situations
I don't disagree with anything you said but I'm pretty sure that AMD is itching to take the title back.

Also, Intel cannibalized itself with Sandy by releasing a chip that outperforms it's own ultra high end in most situations that matter to me. To say that Phenom II had a chance against that is unreasonable.

With that being said, I personally love mine, and really see no need to upgrade at this time. Outside of graphics.
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to the guy that said he waits for 100% (2x) performance increase...
performance increases logarithmically (moores law right)
so you should wait for 10x (1000%) the performance!

hehe

also i have a hard time believing the claim that a 6 core processor is bottlenecking gcards.
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I don't disagree with anything you said but I'm pretty sure that AMD is itching to take the title back.

Also, Intel cannibalized itself with Sandy by releasing a chip that outperforms it's own ultra high end in most situations that matter to me. To say that Phenom II had a chance against that is unreasonable.

With that being said, I personally love mine, and really see no need to upgrade at this time. Outside of graphics.
i hope bd will be awesome and give intel a run for there money.

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to the guy that said he waits for 100% (2x) performance increase...
performance increases logarithmically (moores law right)
so you should wait for 10x (1000%) the performance!

hehe

also i have a hard time believing the claim that a 6 core processor is bottlenecking gcards.
i could have 50 cores and it would not matter one bit if my core performance was bad
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grats you couldnt wait 1 more month when you have enough performance to last you a month
    
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post #60 of 73
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Up until a couple of weeks ago, if you would have asked me "What's your next upgrade", I would have said Bulldozer. However, with AMD's utter lack of publicity, all I see is a scared kid who knows that their product is "better, but not better than the competition". Basically, Intel is the only SURE THING when it comes to performance. That's what I need, a sure thing. AMD's lack of interaction with their community visavi showing what Bulldozer is capable of seems really sketch, as Intel has no problem giving preliminary benchmarks at all, and they always deliver.

Who knows though, I may be wrong about the whole thing...but I really don't see Bulldozer outperforming Sandy Bridge. This is why I've ordered my Intel parts already.
This is a joke right??

Both Intel and AMD do the same thing when it comes to product launches. They normally keep it under wraps until the launch date and then the NDA is lifted. However, there's always some Chinese website (like the one that released the 2500k and 2600k benchies) early.

Besides, this is done for a very specific reason. You don't want people everywhere to know everything your upcoming product because it will stop them from buying your current products and start waiting for the new product. This is good for consumers but bad for a business that lives on sales. I mean, if AMD had released Bulldozer benchmarks a year ago and stated it was coming out next year, would most people have bothered to buy the Thubans knowing full well they are going to want to buy the Bulldozer's as well.

Either way though, go the route that makes you happy. Unfortunately for me, I won't upgrade to Bulldozer on launch but I want one of the HD 7k series GPU's and I can wait until they are released to build a new desktop.
Edited by KamuiRSX - 5/14/11 at 10:17am
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