Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › SSD › SSD life and zero writing?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

SSD life and zero writing? - Page 2

post #11 of 20
With TRIM and/or Garbage Collection you shouldn't need to worry.

Also, a more substantial indication of SSD life would be write level as opposed to simply MTBF. Something like a 64 GB C300 is rated at ~36 TB of write life, for reference. Not sure of the specific # for Sandforce drives, but I would imagine it to be a similar figure as the NAND used is not inherently different.
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by peacepcf;13503843 
I was wondering whether it's ok to zero write an ssd(nvm trim takes care of that) with dban, and why ssd life tells me that it expects my vertex to last until 2019, when ssds are advertised as having 2 million hour life spans. What I really need to know is, how I make everything else install by default on my hdd after installing windows on the ssd.

Where do you see an SSD being advertised as having a 2 million hour lifespan?

Or is it that you don't understand what MTBF means? It doesn't mean a drive will (or is even likely to) last that long...
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
ohhh, I just looked it up, I don't understand why anyone would need to know that
Main PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Msi P67A - G45 Asus Direct CU HD5850 CF 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveMonitorPower
Ocz Vertex 2 60GB/WD 320GB 7200RPM sata drive Lg DVD RW I Inc 28"(27.5) Corsair HX650W 
Case
Lian Li A05NB 
  hide details  
Reply
Main PC
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Msi P67A - G45 Asus Direct CU HD5850 CF 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveMonitorPower
Ocz Vertex 2 60GB/WD 320GB 7200RPM sata drive Lg DVD RW I Inc 28"(27.5) Corsair HX650W 
Case
Lian Li A05NB 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 20
my SSD has been running 800+ hours now and the S.M.A.R.T data still says that my SSD has 100% life remaining
The Ancient
(14 items)
 
FZ-G1
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom X6 1055T 3.9GHz NB 3.0GHz ASUS Crosshair V  GTX 770 8GB G.Skill TridentX 1652MHz CL7-7-8-20-22 1T 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ 60GB Vertex 2E - 3x HDD's Samsung Blu-Ray Drive Custom W/C Loop Windows 7 64bit 
PowerCase
Superflower Leadex 650W Coolermaster Storm Scout Mod 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3437U Intel HD4000 8GB 256GB SSD 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 8 Pro 10.1 WUXGA Touchscreen Worlds Durable Tablet 
  hide details  
Reply
The Ancient
(14 items)
 
FZ-G1
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom X6 1055T 3.9GHz NB 3.0GHz ASUS Crosshair V  GTX 770 8GB G.Skill TridentX 1652MHz CL7-7-8-20-22 1T 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ 60GB Vertex 2E - 3x HDD's Samsung Blu-Ray Drive Custom W/C Loop Windows 7 64bit 
PowerCase
Superflower Leadex 650W Coolermaster Storm Scout Mod 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Core i5-3437U Intel HD4000 8GB 256GB SSD 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 8 Pro 10.1 WUXGA Touchscreen Worlds Durable Tablet 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by peacepcf;13503843 
What I really need to know is, how I make everything else install by default on my hdd after installing windows on the ssd.

Think you need from 3.15 in this vid

http://www.youtube.com/user/SirJamesDDJ#p/u/37/Za_2g4H7RjM
TheFlyer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX8120 GIGABYTE UD5 REV1 XFX HD6950 G.Skill RipJaws Z 4x4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128GB Sony Optiaric XSPC Rasa 240 7/64/ULT 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Benq G2420HD 24" LCD yep NZXT Hale 750 NZXT Phantom White 
MouseMouse Pad
yep nope 
  hide details  
Reply
TheFlyer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX8120 GIGABYTE UD5 REV1 XFX HD6950 G.Skill RipJaws Z 4x4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128GB Sony Optiaric XSPC Rasa 240 7/64/ULT 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Benq G2420HD 24" LCD yep NZXT Hale 750 NZXT Phantom White 
MouseMouse Pad
yep nope 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 20
Thread moved to SSD
Black storm
(32 items)
 
 
HomeServer
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7-4790K @ 4751mhz Asus Z97 Pro Gaming  HD4890 - HD5870 - HD6950 - HD7850x2 - HD7950x2... 8800GTS - GTS450 - GTX650ti Boost - GTX670 - GT... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16GB 2400mhz CL9 Ripjaws Samsung 951 NVME 256GB 250GB SSD Samsung 840 Seagate 7200rpm 3TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Seagate 7200rpm 3TB Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Copper MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 120mm rad. MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 240mm rad 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Lamptron FC5 V2 fan-controller AlphaCool VP655 Pump + Plexi Top EK Spin Bay resevoir 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon's 1450rpm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
6x Enermax Cluster White 1200rpm Windows 10 Iiyama Prolite E2773HDS 27inch - 47inch LG TV Corsair K60 - Razor BlackWidow Stealth - Logite... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM1000i Corsair AIR540 Logitech G502 Corepad xxxl 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Musical Fidelity V-Dac II Reloop Direct Drive Turntable with Ortofon Conc... 2x Adam A5X Studio Monitors BeyerDynamic DT990 Pro 250ohm 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Audioquest Nighthawk Lehmann Audio Linear Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD650 Musical Fidelity V-PSU 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD E-350 Asus E35M1-M 4GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz  1,5TB wester digital green 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
640GB WD Caviar blue 500GB Samsung Spinpoint Samsung Dvd-rewriter windows xp sp2 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
19inch phillips tft generic Bequiet 300Watt Fratal Design Core 
MouseMouse Pad
microsoft none 
  hide details  
Reply
Black storm
(32 items)
 
 
HomeServer
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7-4790K @ 4751mhz Asus Z97 Pro Gaming  HD4890 - HD5870 - HD6950 - HD7850x2 - HD7950x2... 8800GTS - GTS450 - GTX650ti Boost - GTX670 - GT... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16GB 2400mhz CL9 Ripjaws Samsung 951 NVME 256GB 250GB SSD Samsung 840 Seagate 7200rpm 3TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Seagate 7200rpm 3TB Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Copper MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 120mm rad. MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 240mm rad 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Lamptron FC5 V2 fan-controller AlphaCool VP655 Pump + Plexi Top EK Spin Bay resevoir 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon's 1450rpm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
6x Enermax Cluster White 1200rpm Windows 10 Iiyama Prolite E2773HDS 27inch - 47inch LG TV Corsair K60 - Razor BlackWidow Stealth - Logite... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM1000i Corsair AIR540 Logitech G502 Corepad xxxl 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Musical Fidelity V-Dac II Reloop Direct Drive Turntable with Ortofon Conc... 2x Adam A5X Studio Monitors BeyerDynamic DT990 Pro 250ohm 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Audioquest Nighthawk Lehmann Audio Linear Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD650 Musical Fidelity V-PSU 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD E-350 Asus E35M1-M 4GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz  1,5TB wester digital green 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
640GB WD Caviar blue 500GB Samsung Spinpoint Samsung Dvd-rewriter windows xp sp2 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
19inch phillips tft generic Bequiet 300Watt Fratal Design Core 
MouseMouse Pad
microsoft none 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 20
this is why i havent gone SSD yet....36TB of write life? cmon...my HDD has read/written so much more and its a fraction of the price that and S.M.A.R.T status shows perfectly healthy.

when SSDs come to more reasonable prices ill consider one for an OS drive, until them my caviar blacks/blues will do me just fine.
Orange Angel
(22 items)
 
 
BOINC me! (TM)
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.4Ghz ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe  Visiontek RX 480 [EK FC nickel/Acetal] 16GB Mushkin Blackline 2133mhz @11-11-11-31-1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB Crucial M300 1TB Seagate Firecuda 2TB EK Supreme LTX CSQ [Canadian Special Edition] 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MCP 35X 10W W/ EK CSQ X-TOP EK Coolstream PE 240 Bitspower Multi Tank 80 Bitspower Matte Black Rotary Fittings/ Feser Ma... 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit Samsung 32 Inch 4K TV Acer S231H NKPC V60 65% custom  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Fractal Design Define Nano S Razer Deathadder 2013 Stelseries QCK+ 
Audio
Astro A40 TR+ Mixamp Pro 
CPUCPUCoolingPower
Antminer S3 Antminer S3 4x Cougar Vortex V12-HP PWM Fans EVGA 500B 500W PSU, Corsair GS700 700W PSU 
Case
2x Factory S3 Steel Cowl Case 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 750 EVGA P55 Classified 200 XFX Radeon 6850 Refrerence XFX Radeon 5770 XXX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16GB Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3 WD Caviar RE 250GB Coolermaster Hyper 212+ windows 7 64 bit 
Power
Corsair GS600 
  hide details  
Reply
Orange Angel
(22 items)
 
 
BOINC me! (TM)
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.4Ghz ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe  Visiontek RX 480 [EK FC nickel/Acetal] 16GB Mushkin Blackline 2133mhz @11-11-11-31-1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB Crucial M300 1TB Seagate Firecuda 2TB EK Supreme LTX CSQ [Canadian Special Edition] 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MCP 35X 10W W/ EK CSQ X-TOP EK Coolstream PE 240 Bitspower Multi Tank 80 Bitspower Matte Black Rotary Fittings/ Feser Ma... 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit Samsung 32 Inch 4K TV Acer S231H NKPC V60 65% custom  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX750 Fractal Design Define Nano S Razer Deathadder 2013 Stelseries QCK+ 
Audio
Astro A40 TR+ Mixamp Pro 
CPUCPUCoolingPower
Antminer S3 Antminer S3 4x Cougar Vortex V12-HP PWM Fans EVGA 500B 500W PSU, Corsair GS700 700W PSU 
Case
2x Factory S3 Steel Cowl Case 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 750 EVGA P55 Classified 200 XFX Radeon 6850 Refrerence XFX Radeon 5770 XXX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16GB Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3 WD Caviar RE 250GB Coolermaster Hyper 212+ windows 7 64 bit 
Power
Corsair GS600 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCSarge;13516847 
this is why i havent gone SSD yet....36TB of write life? cmon...my HDD has read/written so much more and its a fraction of the price that and S.M.A.R.T status shows perfectly healthy.

when SSDs come to more reasonable prices ill consider one for an OS drive, until them my caviar blacks/blues will do me just fine.


When you do get an ssd boot drive you will see how pointless your top rate rest of system has been on those HDD's I can assure you of that
TheFlyer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX8120 GIGABYTE UD5 REV1 XFX HD6950 G.Skill RipJaws Z 4x4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128GB Sony Optiaric XSPC Rasa 240 7/64/ULT 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Benq G2420HD 24" LCD yep NZXT Hale 750 NZXT Phantom White 
MouseMouse Pad
yep nope 
  hide details  
Reply
TheFlyer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX8120 GIGABYTE UD5 REV1 XFX HD6950 G.Skill RipJaws Z 4x4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128GB Sony Optiaric XSPC Rasa 240 7/64/ULT 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Benq G2420HD 24" LCD yep NZXT Hale 750 NZXT Phantom White 
MouseMouse Pad
yep nope 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCSarge;13516847 
this is why i havent gone SSD yet....36TB of write life? cmon...my HDD has read/written so much more and its a fraction of the price that and S.M.A.R.T status shows perfectly healthy.

when SSDs come to more reasonable prices ill consider one for an OS drive, until them my caviar blacks/blues will do me just fine.
That figure is for the 64 GB versions.
128 GB+ for at least the Crucial drives bump that figure to 72TB.

Also, you could write 20 GB per day every day for 5 years and still not populate 36 TB...
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by peacepcf;13503843 
and why ssd life tells me that it expects my vertex to last until 2019, when ssds are advertised as having 2 million hour life spans.
MTBF != Life Expectency.

MTBF is really not useful for consumers. It is useful for datacenters running hundreds/thousands of drives.


http://www.apc.com/prod_docs/results.cfm?DocType=White%20Paper&Query_Type=11&value=Ar
Mean Time Between Failure: Explanation and Standards
attachment.php?attachmentid=210181&stc=1&d=1305222306

Quote:
Originally Posted by PCSarge;13516847 
this is why i havent gone SSD yet....36TB of write life? cmon...my HDD has read/written so much more and its a fraction of the price that and S.M.A.R.T status shows perfectly healthy.

when SSDs come to more reasonable prices ill consider one for an OS drive, until them my caviar blacks/blues will do me just fine.
40GB SSD still usable after 900TB:
http://www.overclock.net/ssd/1013672-ssd-endurance-after-900000gb.html

OS/application drives generally do not see that much writes.... usually 3-10GB a day.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: SSD
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › SSD › SSD life and zero writing?