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Okay thanks. I got some AS5 at RadioShack and that dropped the temps 4-5C I also turned off Vdroop and that helps too with 0.8V less at load. Now I'm getting 77C with 20C ambient.

I got so used to more reasonable temps with my stock cooler on the E5200 even with it pushed pretty hard. I guess I will have to readjust to the idea that I'm never really going to stress a 2500K anyway in real use so stress temps can be pretty hot.
yeah its hard as heck to stress these things outside of actual stress testing programs. But the 4-5C drop just from the new TIM is awesome
    
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You're complaining about OVERCLOCKING on a STOCK cooler? You shouldn't be expecting any decent results at all. "General impressions" are subjective.

Seriously, just get an aftermarket cooler and be done with it.
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post #23 of 36
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I just put together a 2500k system with a stock cooler.

Running Prime95 I get max temps of 84C in RealTemp. The case is open and ambient temp is 20C.

SpeedFan shows the CPU fan at 2027RPM and CPU-Z shows a core voltage of 1.336V (Vdroop is on).

Is this really all I can expect from the stock cooler or should I suspect something is wrong? I heard they were better than this. The cooler on my E5200 was awesome giving me 70C temps w/ a 50% overclock.
Are you overclocking that 2500k? I'm at stock settings with stock cooler and it max 70C in Prime95.
    
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it's 32nm, it should be way lower. Re-apply thermal paste maybe? I have my 32nm @ 1.4v and it idles 40c and under load 60c and it's OC'd.. at stock it was 20c idle o.O
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Do yourself a favor and spend 20 dollars on an aftermarket cooler. This is a good start, and is MILES ahead of that crap stock cooler Intel supplies. If you want to spend 40 bucks, you could get a hyper 212, which is more than adequate for even moderate overclocking on SB processors.

It makes no sense to buy 400 dollars worth of hardware to protect it with a 5 dollar piece of junk. Your computer will thank you.
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Do yourself a favor and spend 20 dollars on an aftermarket cooler. This is a good start, and is MILES ahead of that crap stock cooler Intel supplies. If you want to spend 40 bucks, you could get a hyper 212, which is more than adequate for even moderate overclocking on SB processors.

It makes no sense to buy 400 dollars worth of hardware to protect it with a 5 dollar piece of junk. Your computer will thank you.
exactly, aftermarket cooling is essential for overclocking!!
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post #27 of 36
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I had heard people can overclock to 4.4GHz on the stock cooler. With 84C at 3.7GHz I don't see how this is possible.

Could my fan be running too slow? What should the max fan speed of the stock cooler be? I guess I could also try reseating the cooler. I don't have any paste though. Is it okay to reseat it with the same paste?
Overclocking with the stock cooler and running PRIME when overclocked with the stock cooler are two completely different things. Keep that in mind. You could top out at 80C in a game, and run prime and it reaches 100C. It doesn't mean that you can't use the chip....but you clearly can't stress test at settings like that.

My friend gets to over 100C in prime on his 920, because of his horrible ventilated case. And nothing he can do about it, as he's a teenager (without the resources some of you guys have; some people actually have strict parents to contend with). Games don't get it that hot.
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I just put together a 2500k system with a stock cooler.

Running Prime95 I get max temps of 84C in RealTemp. The case is open and ambient temp is 20C.

SpeedFan shows the CPU fan at 2027RPM and CPU-Z shows a core voltage of 1.336V (Vdroop is on).

Is this really all I can expect from the stock cooler or should I suspect something is wrong? I heard they were better than this. The cooler on my E5200 was awesome giving me 70C temps w/ a 50% overclock.
Sorry if I missed it in the thread but what is your CPU overclocked too?

I'm OCed to 4.5 @ 1.32 voltage idle. At load I'm hitting 55 degrees.

Of course you are using stock cooling but that voltage has a lot to do with the temps. If you want to drop your temps lower your vcore.. and drop the clock to go with it.

You can get a very decent temp @ 4 Ghz on stock cooling and stock voltage.
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Overclocking with the stock cooler and running PRIME when overclocked with the stock cooler are two completely different things. Keep that in mind. You could top out at 80C in a game, and run prime and it reaches 100C. It doesn't mean that you can't use the chip....but you clearly can't stress test at settings like that.

My friend gets to over 100C in prime on his 920, because of his horrible ventilated case. And nothing he can do about it, as he's a teenager (without the resources some of you guys have; some people actually have strict parents to contend with). Games don't get it that hot.
He could take off the side panel and put a box fan next to it! (I do really know people that had to do exactly that due to budget limitations. )
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Are you overclocking that 2500k? I'm at stock settings with stock cooler and it max 70C in Prime95.
Ahhh...now this is want I'm looking for someone who can tell me what they get with the same setup.

I'm now running at pure stock settings with the stock cooler and Artic Silver 5 TIM. Did you use the Intel thermal paste?

Are you using RealTemp for temp readings? This is supposedly much more accurate than others so I'd love to get a direct comparison. I run Prime95 blend on 4 cores and then reset RealTemp. It tends to float about 72 after a minute or two but if I let it run for 10-15 minutes then check the max temps in RealTemp I see 77-78. This is in 21C room with the case side off.

Any chance you could do a similar test (Prime95 Blend, RealTemp, 10min run, case side off) and tell me what you see as the typical temp, what you get for max temp and what your ambient temp is? That would be really helpful because then I would know what is possible with the stock cooler and if I'm getting close.

Thanks to everyone else for the cooler suggestions and I get why you all say to that and I may but first I want to see what can be done without adding 22% to the CPU cost.
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