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I am confused about how the dozers are going to work. Being advertised as x cores but having half the modules? What's a module? Are these cores inferior to a sandy core for instance?

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There are 2 cpu in a module and 4 modules to a cpu ide on the 8 core bulldozer chip. No one know if the bulldozer chip is better or worst then the sandy bridge.
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So to simplify the this, (I understand that nobody knos yet) would a fx4110 be more like an i5 or a i3 with ht on

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So to simplify the this, (I understand that nobody knos yet) would a fx4110 be more like an i5 or a i3 with ht on

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Hopefully, in that sort of way, yeah
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So to simplify the this, (I understand that nobody knos yet) would a fx4110 be more like an i5 or a i3 with ht on

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We can't answer that at this moment in time.
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Watev, ill get one regardless qnd find out, i3 with ht is plenty for me, but anything better would be a pleasent suprise

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post #7 of 10
Each Bulldozer module contains two integer cores, but only one floating-point scheduler, so it's more like a 1 1/2-core unit, rather than two full cores. AMD claims that a Bulldozer module gets 80 percent of the performance that a full dual-core unit does, for an increase in die size of just 12 percent.

My suspicion is that AMD has never been able to make something like Intel's Hyper-Threading technology work for them, so they've decided just to add an extra ALU to their processor cores as a response. It should work, but at the cost of larger dies and power consumption.
     
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post #8 of 10
1 module has:
Two "integer cores" (what actually shows up as cores)
One floating point core shared between those cores (instead of one per core like in previous designs)

The integer cores do the majority of x86 processing. By using a module-based design, the integer cores can now take up less space and be expandable... a future BD could have 3 integer cores/module perhaps. The two cores of a single module would provide 80% of the performance of two regular cores. Power efficiency would be up, costs would be down.
post #9 of 10
I think FX will compete like this no matter how many cores it takes to do so:

4110 against i3 2100
6110 against i5 2400
8110 against i5 2500k
8130 against i7 2600k

Prices may also compete in similar fashion.
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post #10 of 10


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resource sharing levels:

Hyperthreading- share everything between two threads (in core)
bottom left

BD CMT - share "few parts" between two threads (in module)
top right this has not virtual threads like htt

CMP (phenom) - share nothing between threads
top left

    
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