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The problem with that is there will be a higher failure rate. Imagine Intel 2600k that fry if you overclock by 1 MHz or overvolt by 20 mV.
You missed my point....If you overclock a card and it isnt stable...That is not nvidias problem...If all of them could run at 725 mhz without issues, then that would be the stock speed not 630.
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True, imo since the ati xt days

would be nice to those that bought one
We can hope for the best...

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Why would they??? The card runs fine at stock speeds...Thats all a card is ever promised to run...If you blow it up by even running it 1mgz over stock speeds then that is your problem...Not Nvidia's.
i have made this argument before too, i got my eyes clawed out....

a large portion of gtx 590's will go out in alienwares and they will sit at stock clocks playing WOW for the next 5 years.
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i have made this argument before too, i got my eyes clawed out....

a large portion of gtx 590's will go out in alienwares and they will sit at stock clocks playing WOW for the next 5 years.
While I agree that it would be nice to have these trade-up's, I don't feel that everyone should expect it...Us 590 owners bought these cards...We were not forced to...If we didn't like them we should have returned them...America I guess....Always wanting a handout...
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Or..... make yours fry and get a new revision... hehehe.


But I do agree with Grun. Worst roll out in a while.
That 295 never had the warranty transferred, so whoever has it now can still re-register the card.

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True, imo since the ati xt days




would be nice to those that bought one
First series that crossed my mind, then bumpgate.

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We can hope for the best...

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I take it there is no way to monitor the amps being drawn?
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While I agree that it would be nice to have these trade-up's, I don't feel that everyone should expect it...Us 590 owners bought these cards...We were not forced to...If we didn't like them we should have returned them...America I guess....Always wanting a handout...
So you enjoy getting ripped off?
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You missed my point....If you overclock a card and it isnt stable...That is not nvidias problem...If all of them could run at 725 mhz without issues, then that would be the stock speed not 630.
You missed my point. If the variances between failure and stability is that low, that is unacceptable. A stable, stock card should never be pushed to the limits at stock. There should be additional headroom in case new applications/games push over this threshold.

The power delivery system was inadequate to deal with marginal amperage increases. Nvidia under-engineered this card to save $1-2 on components for a $700 card.
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So you enjoy getting ripped off?
I don't see how you call it being "ripped off." If they had sent him a GTX 570, or a GTX 295, that would be ripped off.

If his card is functioning, with expected performance, he got what he paid for.

He's right - many people do expect hand outs.
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You missed my point. If the variances between failure and stability is that low, that is unacceptable. A stable, stock card should never be pushed to the limits at stock. There should be additional headroom in case new applications/games push over this threshold.

The power delivery system was inadequate to deal with marginal amperage increases. Nvidia under-engineered this card to save $1-2 on components for a $700 card.
Completely irrelevant....If I advertise a card to work at 630 MHZ and it runs at 629MHZ...but is not stable then you can return it and be upset because it does not run as advertised...If it runs 100% stable at 630 but not at 631...then that is not the makers problem...Could it result in lower sales....sure...however to give out new cards...Nah...

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So you enjoy getting ripped off?
How did I get ripped off....I may not have a card that performs that of 2 580's however I also paid about 275 bucks less also...If the card was 1000 bucks and performed as it did...then I could see being ripped off....
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Hm, might want.
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