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does this mean we will see clearance rev1 gtx 590s?

I'm up for a gtx 590 for $500
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Shame on NV.

I'd be one mad hornet if I'd already purchased a 590.
I imagine they'd let you exchange the old for the new ones. Personally, I don't overclock the dual GPU cards much so it wouldn't matter that much to me. However, this is like ASUS releasing a 4+1 overclocking motherboard, seeing it die and then revamping it to something like an 8+2 setup and keeping the same name.

Overall though, I wouldn't appreciate it if Nvidia didn't replace the old with the new if I had bought one.
     
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Unless they plan on a total of 6 GB of RAM, i think I'd still prefer 2 X 3GB GTX580s.
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the bios is softare btw .... just a bunch of 1's and 0's .... hardware would be a piece of silicon interpreting signals and deciding if its ok for the safety of the card ...


and btw congrats on your achievement
You misunderstand me, the evidence of the PDL settings are in the BIOS, it would take a physical sensor to determine WHEN to throttle the cards speeds/voltages to prevent spilling over the usable current.

There would be NO circumventing the sensor/trigger, but you can circumvent the settings, and even trick the card into overclocking itself rather than underclocking itself.
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You misunderstand me, the evidence of the PDL settings are in the BIOS, it would take a physical sensor to determine WHEN to throttle the cards speeds/voltages to prevent spilling over the usable current.

There would be NO circumventing the sensor/trigger, but you can circumvent the settings, and even trick the card into overclocking itself rather than underclocking itself.

does the card have that particular sensor that you are speaking of ????


and if you can go around that bios thingy it does mean that there are no sensor ... so im lost now ... does it have a sensor to monitor the hardware or is it a software load sensing alghorithm ????
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does the card have that particular sensor that you are speaking of ????


and if you can go around that bios thingy it does mean that there are no sensor ... so im lost now ... does it have a sensor to monitor the hardware or is it a software load sensing alghorithm ????
Well the hardware is controlled by software, the BIOS would be in charge of turning off and on throttling component of the card, by physical detecting with the sensor.

So it has both hardware sensors / hardware throttling component, a BIOS "algorithm" / Setting Values of what to set it too. It then has a Operating System related throttling library that is easily changeable and customizeable with every driver update, so even more software throttling.

There is no list of games in BIOS that it knows to throttle when it occurs, however, the cards can throttle on their own in a generic way if you are using titles / software not on the list or accounted for.
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If you are running a watercooled 590 setup, you get screwed out of a fullcover block now.
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All I have to say is, Too late. By the time their "real", "finished" version of the GTX 590 comes out, most folks will be ready for whatever is next.
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Well the hardware is controlled by software, the BIOS would be in charge of turning off and on throttling component of the card, by physical detecting with the sensor.

So it has both hardware sensors / hardware throttling component, a BIOS "algorithm" / Setting Values of what to set it too. It then has a Operating System related throttling library that is easily changeable and customizeable with every driver update, so even more software throttling.

There is no list of games in BIOS that it knows to throttle when it occurs, however, the cards can throttle on their own in a generic way if you are using titles / software not on the list or accounted for.

so its software controled by the drivers .... so its not hardware controled like amd's method right???

and how can the bios be in charge of changing stuff on the fly???


its the drivers that do this ....


and where did you read that the 590's had a sensor to detect heat or whatever????


and btw the driver layer knows about wich game its playing .. because different games have their driver support coded for it ... anyway this post has so many question marks that im not sure of the credibility of your claim ....

so if you can present a bit of data to back up your sensor claims and all that magic bios intervention it would be appreciated
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