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So as the title says I installed fedora 14 on a spare 320gb hdd. However upon doing so it put my raid array off line. How do I put it back online? Figures I finally break down and install Linux and it breaks my windows

It's on my sig rig and all my hard drives are plugged into the ich10 sata2 ports.

Thanks Linux fellas! I need help!
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So as the title says I installed fedora 14 on a spare 320gb hdd. However upon doing so it put my raid array off line. How do I put it back online? Figures I finally break down and install Linux and it breaks my windows

It's on my sig rig and all my hard drives are plugged into the ich10 sata2 ports.

Thanks Linux fellas! I need help!
First off, we need a little more information:

What kind of RAID array? 0? 1?
Is it software RAID through windows, or fakeRAID through a controller?
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I'd be more incline to say it was software RAID by Windows given the situation
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The RAID array was created using the Intel Raid BIOS accessible at start up. It is 2 F3 500gb drives, in RAID 0, and it simply has my Windows 7 install on it.

However, I woke up this morning, the RAID array is now back online, and when looking in Computer in Windows 7, the other drive no longer shows. Do they use incompatible file systems completely? Does this mean it installed successfully and formatted the other hard drive to use linux, and now I need some sort of boot controller to prompt me and ask which HDD I'd like to boot off?

I have...

RAID: Windows 7 primary install.
WD 500gb storage drive: Windows 7 installed on it as well, because when I'm pushing my overclock on this motherboard, it likes to take RAID arrays apart (not like what just happened, but it physically thinks there is no longer a RAID array and just 2 seperate non-bootable drives that need to be reassembled)
Seagate 320gb: Fedora 14 Linux install (I think, I'll need to change HDD boot order in BIOS to confirm that installed correctly and is working)

Thanks again all, look forward to using some Linux

EDIT: I also don't think it'd be considered fakeRAID as it is using my motherboard's onboard RAID controller (ICH10R)
Edited by DaClownie - 5/15/11 at 5:09am
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Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post
The RAID array was created using the Intel Raid BIOS accessible at start up. It is 2 F3 500gb drives, in RAID 0, and it simply has my Windows 7 install on it.

However, I woke up this morning, the RAID array is now back online, and when looking in Computer in Windows 7, the other drive no longer shows. Do they use incompatible file systems completely? Does this mean it installed successfully and formatted the other hard drive to use linux, and now I need some sort of boot controller to prompt me and ask which HDD I'd like to boot off?

I have...

RAID: Windows 7 primary install.
WD 500gb storage drive: Windows 7 installed on it as well, because when I'm pushing my overclock on this motherboard, it likes to take RAID arrays apart (not like what just happened, but it physically thinks there is no longer a RAID array and just 2 seperate non-bootable drives that need to be reassembled)
Seagate 320gb: Fedora 14 Linux install (I think, I'll need to change HDD boot order in BIOS to confirm that installed correctly and is working)

Thanks again all, look forward to using some Linux

EDIT: I also don't think it'd be considered fakeRAID as it is using my motherboard's onboard RAID controller (ICH10R)
Yes, Linux uses a filesystem thats totally incompatible with Windows. Windows uses NTFS, and Linux uses EXT3/4 [unless the user defines a different filesystem].

Generally, when you install Linux, you overwrite the Windows MBR with GRUB [the Linux bootloader], which allows you to pick which OS you wish to boot. I assume that the install wrote GRUB to the MBR of your 320GB HDD, and when you swapped the RAID array to be the first device in the boot order, because the Windows MBR doesn't know that the 320GB HDD has an OS on it, it just boots into Windows.

So, you have two options:

When booting, you can press the interrupt key that lets you select boot device when you want to boot into linux [easiest option]

Set the Linux HDD as the primary boot device and configure GRUB to add a menu option for Windows on your RAID array. I honestly don't know how GRUB would handle that, but I imagine it's possible.

And, to make a long story short, unless your MB put you back over $500, it's still fakeRAID. The onboard controller tells the OS that there's a striped array, but offloads the overhead to the OS. A 'true' RAID array has a card that handles the overhead on its own [like a mini computer (A computer within a computer... lol)], so the OS truly only sees the array as a single drive.
post #6 of 16
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Yea, I need to figure out what the interrupt button is then.

Still weird that the raid BIOS lost my array though. Ah well

Motherboard manual says F12, lets give that a go.
Edited by DaClownie - 5/15/11 at 5:31am
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Yea, I need to figure out what the interrupt button is then.

Still weird that the raid BIOS lost my array though. Ah well
On my board, it's [F8], but it varies from board to board.

And motherboards can do strange things from time to time. A few days ago, my MB decided to up my RAM speed from 880 to 1057, causing all sorts of issues. Needless to say, my RAM sped is no longer on [AUTO] =]
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Ok, so I'm posting this from Fedora, using FF (I use Chrome on Windows, holy transition)

So, anyone know why my displays are messed up? I have two 21.5" displays. My left (primary) monitor has Computer, Clownie's Home, and Trash icons. The right monitor has the bar on the top and the open windows bar on the bottom. Can that be moved to the primary monitor as well?

Sorry if its a silly question, just trying to relearn the wheel here. Operating system feels nice. Not sure what I'm supposed to be doing. Kinda feels like I'm on a Mac, heh
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comment on the raid:

mine did that all the time when i powered down, took over an hour some days after a cold reboot to get my "array" seen again to boot up...it became more trouble than its worth, so i reset the array and just use single fast harddrives for my install...it would happen if linux or windows was installed, it was a problem with the ich10 raid "controller"...so i've learned my lesson, if i want raid, i will spend the bucks on a real raid controller and not some cpu/bios dependent one.
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Yea, it happens when I boot in Linux. I've tested it 4 times today. If I completely power down the computer, wait about 1 minute or so, I can start back up and my RAID array is back and I can boot into Windows. Certainly strange, and probably avoidable as I could move my Linux drive to the GSATA2 ports and use Gigabyte's controller to handle the Linux drive. Ah well, gotta love laziness.

On a side note, Linux is baffling to me. I can't even figure out how to install stuff.
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