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Seriously, get the 9800GT I linked you above. It's by FAR the strongest GPU you'll find in the $50 price range. Anything more than that card, and your CPU will hold it back. Your CPU won't hold back a 9800GT too badly.

Next, upgrade the CPU....or get a new mobo, CPU, and RAM. I could EASILY pick out parts that would be light speeds faster for under $200.
Don't think this board will take a dual core. How do I find out? Also, (Prepare for more noob questions...) can you recommend a mobo or CPU upgrade? At some point, I feel like building a machine approaches the cost of buying a prebuilt and adding RAM and a GFX card (which is how I ended up with my current rig). Is this not always the case? And if I did start from scratch/upgrade everything, isn't the OS and software bundle pretty outrageously expensive?

k... thassit for now. ty in advance.
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Don't think this board will take a dual core. How do I find out? Also, (Prepare for more noob questions...) can you recommend a mobo or CPU upgrade? At some point, I feel like building a machine approaches the cost of buying a prebuilt and adding RAM and a GFX card (which is how I ended up with my current rig). Is this not always the case? And if I did start from scratch/upgrade everything, isn't the OS and software bundle pretty outrageously expensive?

k... thassit for now. ty in advance.
Windows 7 Home premium goes about $99 CAD (prolly the same in US) for the OEM system builders edition.

The only thing it's missing is the support from M$... and even that to only a very little extent.

Also, regarding support, there was a reason why the internet was invented...
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Don't think this board will take a dual core. How do I find out? Also, (Prepare for more noob questions...) can you recommend a mobo or CPU upgrade? At some point, I feel like building a machine approaches the cost of buying a prebuilt and adding RAM and a GFX card (which is how I ended up with my current rig). Is this not always the case? And if I did start from scratch/upgrade everything, isn't the OS and software bundle pretty outrageously expensive?

k... thassit for now. ty in advance.
There's no "noob" questions. It's only "noob" if you DON'T ask, so you don't learn.

A mobo and CPU upgrade would fully depend on your budget. You can get a cheap AM3 board for around $40, an Athlon II x2 for $50, and 2GB of generic DDR3 for around $18. That's roughly $100 upgrade. If you have a higher budget, better parts can be included, such as a higher end board, or 4GB of some good RAM.

Building a machine only costs as much as your budget allows. If you're looking at say a $500 pre-built, you could build a SERIOUSLY awesome mid range gaming machine for $500 that would wipe the floor with the prebuilt. If you're looking at the $200 pre-builts at Wal Mart...they're throw away garbage, and no that usually can't be beaten, but they break in a year.

The only software you'd really NEED is Windows. You can buy an OEM copy for $100 or so new. If you're a student, there's usually great deals for around $30 or so. You could also TRY just reinstalling with your current license....however that is against Microsoft's EULA.
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You know it seems to me you could buy a new mobo+ram+cpu for around 150$ then you could wait till you have enough dough to buy a new graphics card.
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I am willing to bet that you have a Gateway system right? I think this is the right link:
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...05551sp2.shtml

Here's a CPU:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-X2...item1e63697a35

The Gateway Spec claim that is the highest processor that will work in that mobo.
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And if your board does support the dual cores (most 939 boards do honestly, even if its not TECHNICALLY supported).

You can still buy 939 CPU's new.
Athlon x2 3800+ Toledo (beastly CPU) - $49
Athlon x2 4200+ Manchester - $79
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^ Even those links above may be a bit high.
I received a 4400+ from the OCN marketplace for $20..
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
And if your board does support the dual cores (most 939 boards do honestly, even if its not TECHNICALLY supported).

You can still buy 939 CPU's new.
Athlon x2 3800+ Toledo (beastly CPU) - $49
Athlon x2 4200+ Manchester - $79
Those are actually quite solid chips. Just keep in mind that even the 4200+ WILL bottleneck a GTS 250. I still wouldn't go anything over that. A GTS 250 is pretty much the absolute max card that a 5+ year old CPU can handle.
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I'm not really playing anything newer than Oblivion.

Embarassing, I know. Wish I had the money for a better system, but I don't.
What is a better gague of performance than RAM? Core speed?
Please just look at benchmarks, it'll give you an idea...

can't gauge performance by just spec's because the 2 different companies use different methods.
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^ Even those links above may be a bit high.
I received a 4400+ from the OCN marketplace for $20..
Oh, they're DEFINITELY expensive. I sold my Opteron 165 that hit 3.1GHz stable for $50 shipped here.

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Those are actually quite solid chips. Just keep in mind that even the 4200+ WILL bottleneck a GTS 250. I still wouldn't go anything over that. A GTS 250 is pretty much the absolute max card that a 5+ year old CPU can handle.
Nobody told him to get anything more than a GTS250 though.
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