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Considering you need Xeon's with dual QPI to take advantage of multi-socket that really limits the market demand for retail dual socket intel boards.

BUT if Gigabyte could manage to develop an OVERCLOCKING multi-socket AMD board using Opteron 61xx ( 6128 = $200 per cpu) it would dominate a whole new enthusiast segment.

I recently put together a 32 Core (4 socket) 6128 Opteron with 128GB of ECC Registered DDR for less then 2K. If it were overclockable to 3 to 3.6Ghz it would be a force to contend with that Intel would have a hard time competing with at price point or relative performance.

GIGABYTE LISTEN:

Develop a quad socket Magny-Cours overclockable mobo in ANY form factory you want and it will open a market segment that you will have trouble keeping up inventory with.
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Originally Posted by ShtSh00ttr;13517634 
Considering you need Xeon's with dual QPI to take advantage of multi-socket that really limits the market demand for retail dual socket intel boards.

BUT if Gigabyte could manage to develop an OVERCLOCKING multi-socket AMD board using Opteron 61xx ( 6128 = $200 per cpu) it would dominate a whole new enthusiast segment.

I recently put together a 32 Core (4 socket) 6128 Opteron with 128GB of ECC Registered DDR for less then 2K. If it were overclockable to 3 to 3.6Ghz it would be a force to contend with that Intel would have a hard time competing with at price point or relative performance.

GIGABYTE LISTEN:

Develop a quad socket Magny-Cours overclockable mobo in ANY form factory you want and it will open a market segment that you will have trouble keeping up inventory with.

That is an extremely niche market you are talking about. being the only one in the market could be good though, no competition and all. a quad socket mobo probably isn't happening though. However, in a few months when buldozer is in full swing i wouldn't be surprised if some dual c32 mobos started popping up with overclocking.
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Originally Posted by qwertymac93;13517807 
That is an extremely niche market you are talking about. being the only one in the market could be good though, no competition and all. a quad socket mobo probably isn't happening, but in a few months when buldozer is in full swing i wouldn't be surprised if some dual c32 mobos started popping up with overclocking.

I think you would be surprised at how many dual or quad socket G34 boards could be sold if they were overclocking friendly via BIOS.

The 6128 chips with 8 cores run @ $269 on newegg. 4 of these chips overclocked would be quite a major win in multi-threaded computation horsepower for a fraction of equivalent Intel parts.
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Originally Posted by ShtSh00ttr;13517860 
I think you would be surprised at how many dual or quad socket G34 boards could be sold if they were overclocking friendly via BIOS.

The 6128 chips with 8 cores run @ $269 on newegg. 4 of these chips overclocked would be quite a major win in multi-threaded computation horsepower for a fraction of equivalent Intel parts.

again, very few people have use for those things, and big companies/businesses aren't gonna risk running their money-makers out of spec.
Smaller business/one-man-shows might use it for rendering, but that's about it. the 6128 runs at just 2.0ghz, how much higher do you think it could be pushed, given it's running on a server chipset not designed for that? It would be nice if 990FX supported G34, but i don't think that's gonna happen. We are just gonna have to wait for bulldozer before we have even a remote chance of this happening because TBH, intel's xeons are pretty much awesome right now.
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I can tell you the #1 reason that no computer co's will jump onto larger form factors, PRICE. It costs them much less to manufacture lots of smaller mobo's with tolerable failure rates than manufacture larger boards with less tolerable failure rates.

Also, as size increases you must use thicker traces and better higher quality components, that is also going to drive up price. its much easier to make a smaller board faster and more stable than a larger board.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Killam0n;13521721 
I can tell you the #1 reason that no computer co's will jump onto larger form factors, PRICE. It costs them much less to manufacture lots of smaller mobo's with tolerable failure rates than manufacture larger boards with less tolerable failure rates.

Also, as size increases you must use thicker traces and better higher quality components, that is also going to drive up price. its much easier to make a smaller board faster and more stable than a larger board.

The supermicro board I posted on page 1 is around the mid $400 range. And it's a proprietary form factor again. It can be done.
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opinion article...
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Originally Posted by Munkypoo7;13510963 
Wait... people really thought this might legitimately exist?
You'll be surprised people thought it comes with Onboard SSDs too. Even if such a board is made, its obvious that it will be most likely be used by extreme overclockers. If anyone can make something as big as this, it would be Gigabyte most likely- all the more reason people thought that this is for real.
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