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The unplug/replug is exactly what I am doing. Let us hope this does not occur again.

Out of curiosity, which BIOS are you using Slappa? F3? F4?
     
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Right now, Everest says 52º C core (after 13º C correction for wonky Thuban sensor), 45º C for the CPU, 51º C for the "motherboard." HWMonitor reads 50º C on the NB. GPUs are presently 70º C for the top card, 72º C for the sandwiched card, and 74º C for the bottom one.

So far, it has not had a problem. It has done 28% since cranking the fans up, so it looks like 57º C core (50º C "CPU") really isn't stable anymore.
Hmmm, as an update, Iv'e been to 66C max now and HWMonitor showed that my CPU cores were at 42C.... there's a big gap difference.....

Not sure if serious

I don't know who to stick with lol, I might add 12C+ onto the Cores and go with that instead of CPU, and OC much higher for a laugh lol
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Your chip is overheating.

You must read the SOCKET temp (CPU TEMP not CORE TEMPS).

It's about 10-13 more celcius from you core. Let's say it might be around 67-70 celcius when the max rated is 62.

TL;DR; Read your CPU temp and keep it under 55 celcius for best stability.
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The unplug/replug is exactly what I am doing. Let us hope this does not occur again.

Out of curiosity, which BIOS are you using Slappa? F3? F4?
I am using F3 what about you?

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Your chip is overheating.

You must read the SOCKET temp (CPU TEMP not CORE TEMPS).

It's about 10-13 more celcius from you core. Let's say it might be around 67-70 celcius when the max rated is 62.

TL;DR; Read your CPU temp and keep it under 55 celcius for best stability.
qft

Actually one thing i forgot to tell blitz is that anything read by coretemp is actually showing temps 12C cooler than the cpu actually is. I use coretemp with a 12C offset to get accurate readings. Forgot about that.
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I am using F3 what about you?


qft

Actually one thing i forgot to tell blitz is that anything read by coretemp is actually showing temps 12C cooler than the cpu actually is. I use coretemp with a 12C offset to get accurate readings. Forgot about that.
To both of you, the "best bios" according to most owners are F3 or F4. I was using F6, downgraded to F5 for half multiplier to test some overclocks and I'm probably going back to F3/F4 because Raid Utility takes forever to find my drives with F5+ so my boot time is actually 30 seconds longer.
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Blostorm: While I will not speak for Atomfix, this is occurring when my "CPU" is reading 50º C, a far cry from the rated 55º C.

Slappa: I am on F3 as well. I had skipped F4 and tried F5, ended up losing my RAID. I passed on F6 due to the missing half multipliers. I keep meaning to try F4 (most say it is better than F3) but I have not tried it yet given my headaches with F5.

I have my CoreTemp set with a 13º C offset since I read it was off 12-13º C depending on the CPU. 13º C produced "better looking" numbers in relation to CPU temp as compared to my prior AMD processors. (By the way, it is currently reading 47º C, and Everest is showing 40º C on the "CPU.") Case ambient is down to 22.4º C, room ambient is down to 19.5º C.*

Blostorm (again): You're lucky. When I tried F5, it completely destroyed my RAID. I attempted to reinstall, and with F5, it refused to boot from my Windows disc.

*It should be noted that the heat wave broke while we've been updating this thread. It is now only 7.2º C outside, so the A/C is back off, and the door is open. Which is good for me, I have been putting off cleaning my firearms until I could dissipate the solvent smell.
     
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I am getting seriously fed up with my rig and am almost ready to take it to the range to fill it with bullet holes. Here is why.

For months it ran 24/7 stable at 4000 MHz, DDR3-1472. One day, it started to error out of SMP F@H, and after a few weeks, would start to hard lock without a BSOD.

I reconfigured my overclock to 3976 MHz, DDR3-1515. It passed 24 hours of 2x Prime 95 + Kombustor + Fluidmark. (100% load on all six cores, 99% RAM usage, 60% across all three GPUs.) After a few weeks, it is starting to fail SMP F@H, and occasionally, giving me a PAGE FAULT IN A NONPAGED AREA BSOD.

I know page faults are memory related, so I booted up Memtest.

It passed 32 passes of test 8 (supposed to be the hardest one on the memory) and 16 passes of test 3 (supposed to show an L1 fault, which can also give the pagefault) all without a single error.

On a lark, I decided to drop my NB multiplier once, just to see if that fixed it.

Within 3% of starting SMP F@H, it errored out again.

HOWEVER, if I run it on four of the six cores, it will fold without dropping. (Although I am sure it will BSOD still occasionally, it has not done so yet.)

To rule out a bad core, I have tried Cores 1,2,4,5 and 0,1,2,3, both with the same result.

Does anyone know why my rig suddenly gets unstable? Any ideas on how to fix? It should be noted that I have started having these problems since switching from an HD 5970 + GTX 285 to 2x HD 6970 + GTX 285, but it will do it now regardless of which of the three GPUs is in the system. And before anyone asks, the Windows 7 x64 Home Premium SP1 install is about 2 weeks old.
This is what was happening with me. 4.0 Stable SMPing and Bigadv and all of a sudden BSOD hard locks. Dropped my OC to 3.8. I am trying to get my system back to stable for 4.0 or better but am hitting walls left and right.

I went from F4 bios to F6 because my 3.8 was becoming wonky. If a bios change helped, I am wondering if its our board. Try a reflash of the f bios your using and reset your prams and see if that helps.

From others who are having problems like this, with their OC's not holding. I am wondering if its our bios flashes some how slipping.

I am going to try and reflash my bios tonight and see if I can restablize my 4.0. I know my issue isnt temp related, my socket temp (temp1) doesnt break 48*C (cores at 38*C). Mine could be my mem, I have to set timings to auto to break 3.6Ghz.
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Yup, my chip is overheating, by 3C higher than 62C, which is not really a massive difference.

Right now, I don't trust AMD's tech specs saying that Thubans have a max rated temp of 62C, it's just not fair.... yes it may be different architecture to other chips, but if I was running it 65-70C for 24/7, I could still see this chip still alive within the next 2 years possibley.

Sorry for hijacking on this thread btw.
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Not really hijacking to be perfectly honest. If mine actually boiled down to temps, and yours is overheating...

What I cannot understand Atomfix, why is yours running so warm anyway? It looks like you have water cooling? Is the block firmly attached to the CPU, or is it loose?
     
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Not really hijacking to be perfectly honest. If mine actually boiled down to temps, and yours is overheating...

What I cannot understand Atomfix, why is yours running so warm anyway? It looks like you have water cooling? Is the block firmly attached to the CPU, or is it loose?
Trust me, the water block is bolted down to the extreme xD.... the backplate looks like it's bending the motherboard... not much... which shows how tight it is.

And Iv'e lapped my CPU the other month and I can't seem to do it correctly, and I don't have the right grit paper either.... the CPU is perfectly lapped, not mirror shined but good enough to should be able to do the job, but theres uneven parts on the CPU now which has been more lapped than another side.... as examined by looking how the TIM spreaded out after applying the HSF.

It doesn't bother me now, Bulldozer is on the way, so I will upgrade to that when my 1055T dies, but I can't really see it dieing within the next 2 years though :/
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