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post #21 of 27
The Turbocool 1200W is mediocre. Reliable, yes, but meh voltage regulation, average ripple suppression, and mediocre efficiency. Plus it has an ultra-loud fan and fixed cables. It would be fine if it cost $150, but it routinely sells for over $400. When you can get an HCP-1200 or AX1200 or ZX1200 for ~$300 there's no reason to go for the PCP&C.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet View Post
I was under the impression the newer Mk II series wasn't as higher tier compared to what they used to offer, however. I know the "original" Silencer line has the 760W and 910W units which are still supposedly better, but it was the Mk II units I was referring to with that comment.
The Silencer MK II 950 is the "Top Tier" unit for that product line; it's not a bad unit by any means but it's really average int he votlage regulation. Though the efficiency is good.

The big problem is the 12v rail only has ~2% regulation and the 3.3v rail is 4%.

Though the ripple suppression is equally as weak on the 12v rail at 70mv.

On the other hand though, the Silencer MK II 500w and 600w units are better than the older Silencer 500w & 610w units. If only just for the boosted efficiency and equal Vreg.
Ripple on them falls short as well with the 12v going up to 60mv (vs the old units ~40mv)
To be honest though, I would rather have the almost 4% more efficient at full load unit, than the older ones even if it's another 20mv of ripple added on.
(note: The minor rails were largely unchanged with all being around 15-20mv of ripple.)

In short, the new units are not bad; but the high end units of the Silencer MK II line (750w & 950w) fall short of what the old Silencer line offered (750, 760, & 910w units.)
But the Mid-Range units did bring themselves up to par with the modern age.
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post #23 of 27

Just go for the Antec HCP 1200, you wont be disappointed, oh bind the way I forgot to tell you guys something. The antec hcp 1200 has been used by Asus rog and they said that the antec hcp 1200 supplied more than 1700watts of power to 4x 580's and a 980x or a 990x.

Here is antec doing their own test with Quad SLI GTX580 OC with Antec HCP-1200 at Monster 2200 Watts of power.


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post #24 of 27
The HCP-1200 is only able to output 1200w continuously.

Those 1700w and 2200w numbers are with the OCP & OPP disabled.
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post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by microterf View Post
Just wondering what peoples opinions on PC Power and Cooling PSUs vs others, the reason I am asking is that I'm going to start getting ready for my next build based on Ivy bridge. I currently have the 1200W PC P&C Turbo Cool PSU, and I must say that I'm happy with it, but I've noticed you don't really see too much about them. I paid $500 for it, and I wouldn't mind getting another for my next build, but not if there is something better out there.

PSUs are one thing I don't really know too much about the technicalities of, so I'd appreciate any input, thanks. Going to order Mountain Mods case PSU, and monitors over the next couple months for this build.
I use PC Power&Cooling in anything I want to be dead reliable.
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post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
On the other hand though, the Silencer MK II 500w and 600w units are better than the older Silencer 500w & 610w units. If only just for the boosted efficiency and equal Vreg.

In short, the new units are not bad; but the high end units of the Silencer MK II line (750w & 950w) fall short of what the old Silencer line offered (750, 760, & 910w units.)
That's more or less what I was trying to get at (maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough). I didn't mean that in a literal side by side and apples to apples comparison that they are/got "worse". I meant that figuratively "compared to how they used to be" with all else considered.

The PSU market heated up alot and PC Power & Cooling just hasn't kept up the same. They're not bad, but they haven't adapted well. The have good units, but not always the best for the value (though it seems some have gotten a bit better with pricing in that regard).
Edited by Princess Garnet - 5/15/11 at 9:50pm
post #27 of 27
OCZ is using the pc & powercool good name and trying to ofload they're units that way. The silencer ones are OCZ quality ones with a different badge. Sirtec made the latest line where the older units of 2009 were made by Seasonic . The ripple thing you see with OCZ units especially when they have a heavy load. But the price = performance not worth it.

edit : typo
Edited by Spooony - 5/15/11 at 11:51pm
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