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post #31 of 77
Your original is one of the most imbalanced builds I've ever seen.. lol.

1000 dollar processor with a 80 dollar hard drive.

2600k and SSD is the way to go as others have said. Check out the crucial M4 128gb.
    
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Cut that 990x off the buying list, get 2600k instead and an hd 6990 or gtx 590 (same price for both at $700). You will get much more gaming performance for much less. 990x is only good for video rendering and transcoding stuff, not worth it for gaming.
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hyper threading is good for programs that can use them. Gaming is one of those things that don't really use them. Now for 3d rendering and stuff like that, its fine to use hyper threading. If you read a lot of threads started by owners of the i7-2600k you will notice most of them have turned it off and others will mention that they are getting better fps by doing this. The question is are they really getting better frame rates buy doing this. I'm sure they are, but its only buy 3 or 4 frames on average. And most 2600k owners are only getting about 3 to 5 frames better then the 2500k users.

Now I'm not saying the 2600k chip is stupid to buy. There are many benefits for this chip, if you are a designer, or using heavy cpu software like 3d studio max or even CS4 then the choice would be for the 2600k. I'm a graphic designer and I use the 2500k and love it. Ten times better then my AMD chip that I had. It was a Athlon so its hard to compare but its a world of difference.

Yes, your SSD's work just like HHD's, they plug in the same. Just make sure before you install windows that you switch from ide mode to AHCI, this will allow the SSD to perform much better.

Now, I noticed you wanted to to have a crap ton of Ram on your machine. This is another item that is not necessary. The most you really need for gaming is 4, just buy ram that is faster and has a lower latency. But for things like video editing and stuff like that, having more ram will be nice but not needed. I do a lot of design work and I only use 4 gigs of ram and my computer never gets bog down with tasks. I use cs4 for everything, I will have about 4 to 5 programs open at once and a few browser windows and I do just fine. If you want to get more then 4 then only get 8. There is no need for anymore, but is a waste of money if you are not doing tons of intense photo applications or video applications. Buy more then 4 gigs of ram, is like you buying the 990x over the i7-2600k, there is no real world benefit for you to buy that much ram.
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post #34 of 77
Good info, helpful info from Leichtwork above +1

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Originally Posted by Lex Luger View Post
Crossfire and sli bridges comes with motherboard generally, not gpu. At least for me.
Crossfire bridges come with the cards (and sometimes the board as well), and SLI bridges come with the boards pretty much exclusively.
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post #35 of 77
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hyper threading is good for programs that can use them. Gaming is one of those things that don't really use them. Now for 3d rendering and stuff like that, its fine to use hyper threading. If you read a lot of threads started by owners of the i7-2600k you will notice most of them have turned it off and others will mention that they are getting better fps by doing this. The question is are they really getting better frame rates buy doing this. I'm sure they are, but its only buy 3 or 4 frames on average. And most 2600k owners are only getting about 3 to 5 frames better then the 2500k users.

Now I'm not saying the 2600k chip is stupid to buy. There are many benefits for this chip, if you are a designer, or using heavy cpu software like 3d studio max or even CS4 then the choice would be for the 2600k. I'm a graphic designer and I use the 2500k and love it. Ten times better then my AMD chip that I had. It was a Athlon so its hard to compare but its a world of difference.

Yes, your SSD's work just like HHD's, they plug in the same. Just make sure before you install windows that you switch from ide mode to AHCI, this will allow the SSD to perform much better.

Now, I noticed you wanted to to have a crap ton of Ram on your machine. This is another item that is not necessary. The most you really need for gaming is 4, just buy ram that is faster and has a lower latency. But for things like video editing and stuff like that, having more ram will be nice but not needed. I do a lot of design work and I only use 4 gigs of ram and my computer never gets bog down with tasks. I use cs4 for everything, I will have about 4 to 5 programs open at once and a few browser windows and I do just fine. If you want to get more then 4 then only get 8. There is no need for anymore, but is a waste of money if you are not doing tons of intense photo applications or video applications. Buy more then 4 gigs of ram, is like you buying the 990x over the i7-2600k, there is no real world benefit for you to buy that much ram.
Thanks for that, I've decided the get the 2600k.
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post #36 of 77
Build looks good AI, the one thing I'd change is the PSU.

Not that it's not a great unit, as it is a fine, fine PSU. But it's way more than you actually need. It's even more than you'd need if you added another 6970.

A good solid 750W is all you need for this build, but you could go with an 850W if you want a ton of overhead for good efficiency, and if you think you might want to get a third 6970, get a 1KW unit.

Some PSU brands I'd recommend in this wattage range are:
Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax (anything these three put out is good-to-great), XFX (esp. Black Edition), Silverstone (ST series), and Antec (True Power New series).

Also, believe it or not, both the Sparkle and Kingwin 'Gold' certified units are actually pretty decent PSU's for what they go for as well.

EDIT: Lastly, I've never seen this unit before just now, but it looks to me like it's actually an Enermax unit internally (which means it's going to be good):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194083

This might be a pretty ideal choice ... it's reasonably priced, 900W (which is not overkill for 2, but still enough for 3 x 6970), it has 6 x 6+2 PCI Ex connectors, it's Gold-Certified (which means high-efficiency), and it's Enermax-built.

Anyways here's review on that particular PSU from the masters at JonnyGuru.

As you can see from my sig, I'm a fan of Enermax units rebranded into less-expensive versions
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Thanks for that, I've decided the get the 2600k.
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Here is a more proper gaming build.

CPU- i7 2500k $225
MOBO- GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 $160
RAM- 8GB Mushkin Enhanced Blackline $145
HDD- Samsung F3 1TB $65
SSD- Crucial M4- $150
GPU- 6990+6970 Crossfire- $1000
Case- HAF X- $200
CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14- $90
PSU- AX 1200- $280

And there you can max out any game out right now at more than 60 FPS plus you have $120 left over.
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Build looks good AI, the one thing I'd change is the PSU.

Not that it's not a great unit, as it is a fine, fine PSU. But it's way more than you actually need. It's even more than you'd need if you added another 6970.

A good solid 750W-850W is all you need for this build, and if you think you might want to get a third 6970, get a 1KW unit.
Shouldn't I get a 1200w PSU for higher overclocking headroom?
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