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Hello everybody

I've been on overclock.net for some time now and I've always been envious of how everyone's water cooled set ups look. So i was thinking to myself why don't I give it a shot, I mean it don't look that hard

I've put together a wish list of what i want and I've added a simple drawing of the loop I will be doing. I need all you water cooling Guru's to have a look through and give me some advice. I'll be buying these parts over the coming months and when I have them all together I will link to a work log through this thread.

Here's my shopping list






And here's my Loop idea



on the loop drawing, its a rough layout of my case the res sits in my 3/5 bay and the pump is sat in the 2/5 bay

The components I'm cooling are the CPU the Motherboard north/south bridges and 2 GTX470's

Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions
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I am by no means a guru, but I have some suggestions.

Have you looked at prices from other manufacturers for rads and fittings? It may be more convenient to buy everything from one place, but it also be may more expensive than what you could get it all for.

Have you thought about fans? I'm not one to tell you what ones are best for the rads, but it is something you should consider.

OCN generally advise against using any dye. If you want a red look, get red tubes. Not red dye. It gums up your pump and blocks. My friend just built a loop with red tubes and it looks sweet.

I think the MCP-355 and 655 pumps are better than the one you suggested, but I see why you chose that one based on where you wanna place it. The 355/655 are taller and wouldn't fit in a bay.

Lastly, I would put your CPU before your motherboard block. Just to get those few extra degrees. But your current arraignment of tubes is so efficient, I'm finding it hard to rationalize that.
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I am by no means a guru, but I have some suggestions.

Have you looked at prices from other manufacturers for rads and fittings? It may be more convenient to buy everything from one place, but it also be may more expensive than what you could get it all for. I'm not too fussed about price because my wages are quite high and I don't have many interests worth spending it on, plus buying from one place makes it convenient for returns/refunds if need be

Have you thought about fans? I'm not one to tell you what ones are best for the rads, but it is something you should consider. I've got a few fans lying around but I'm glad you mentioned it, what fans would be best for this? bearing in mind they will obviously all be 120mm

OCN generally advise against using any dye. If you want a red look, get red tubes. Not red dye. It gums up your pump and blocks. My friend just built a loop with red tubes and it looks sweet. I did not realise that, thank you very much. I will amend that before purchase

I think the MCP-355 and 655 pumps are better than the one you suggested, but I see why you chose that one based on where you wanna place it. The 355/655 are taller and wouldn't fit in a bay.

Lastly, I would put your CPU before your motherboard block. Just to get those few extra degrees. But your current arraignment of tubes is so efficient, I'm finding it hard to rationalize that. I chose motherboard 1st generally because I thought it would look tidier and that there wouldn't be much of a difference in cooling. If it would make a difference than i will amend it, do you think it will?
Please see my answers to your queries in red
Thanks for your post
post #4 of 27
Dont buy that fluid crap. It'll ruin your loop and clog your blocks.
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Dont buy that fluid crap. It'll ruin your loop and clog your blocks.
Thank you.
I think I will change it to normal fluid with red tubing as I get the sense that coloured fluid clogs up the system.

Out of general curiosity if it does clog up the system why do they sell it?
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Out of general curiosity if it does clog up the system why do they sell it?
For looks mainly. But the other guys called it correctly, dyes have a tendency to break down at some point.

You seem to have a few compatibility issues:

I am assuming that you are planning on blanking one of the slots on the triple link, allowing for a later upgrade. If not then you should be looking at a dual serial link.

Those fittings are for 8*10mm tubing, and you have selected 9.5*12.7mm tube. They won't be compatible, you need to match the tubing and the fitting sizes.


Other than that:

That pump is OK, but might struggle with your loop, especially due to the mobo block which tend to be a bit restrictive. I would advise going for the bigger brother, the DDC-1Plus (MCP355) with a custom top.

360mm of rad will struggle slightly with your heat load (~630W) unless you use mid-high speed fans. I would see if you can add any more in there at all, or even go push / pull with the fans. As it is it will work reasonably, but hey, this is OCN!

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Use water, not some bottled "water cooling fluid"... distilled water + ptnuke, easy as it gets. mcp350/355 are tiny, and perfect for bay install, the 655 no, but 655 has the pressure you will need for such a long loop with so many things to cool, 355 won't have enough pressure I dont think.

I have two water cooled rigs, one with a 655 modded, and one with a 350 modded. you're gonna need some pressure for the bends and amount of blocks... One of those dual 350/355 tops they make would be sweet tho! lol Can you afford / do you want dual pumps? THAT would be sick. IMO
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but 655 has the pressure you will need for such a long loop with so many things to cool, 355 won't have enough pressure I dont think.
Other way round. The 355 with custom top has a higher maximum head pressure than the 655, but lower maximum flow. For a restrictive loop the 355 + top or the 35x is a better option.

There is a type of D5 (655) which outperforms the 355, it is the D5 Strong, but for it to beat the 355 it needs to run above 12V (it is a 24V pump)
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post #9 of 27
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For looks mainly. But the other guys called it correctly, dyes have a tendency to break down at some point.

You seem to have a few compatibility issues:

I am assuming that you are planning on blanking one of the slots on the triple link, allowing for a later upgrade. If not then you should be looking at a dual serial link. Yes I am going with the triple link because I will be upgrading to tri sli at some point in the near future

Those fittings are for 8*10mm tubing, and you have selected 9.5*12.7mm tube. They won't be compatible, you need to match the tubing and the fitting sizes. My mistake, I didn't read the description properly. I'll be changing it to red tubing anyway. thank you.

Other than that:

That pump is OK, but might struggle with your loop, especially due to the mobo block which tend to be a bit restrictive. I would advise going for the bigger brother, the DDC-1Plus (MCP355) with a custom top. If I get a custom top do you think it will still fit in the 2/5" bays? the space is only 2 bays high, and are the hard to fit

360mm of rad will struggle slightly with your heat load (~630W) unless you use mid-high speed fans. I would see if you can add any more in there at all, or even go push / pull with the fans. As it is it will work reasonably, but hey, this is OCN! I have an additional 120 rad after the CPU in the loop will this not help?

For fans, grab some Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15s if you can, their noise / performance ratio is unmatched in 120mm fans. Alternatively see about getting in on the GT-2150 group buy going on with OCN (see sticky at to of forum), although shipping might kill that for you (still finalizing costs). Thank you, I was wondering what fans would be best

Response's in red.

Thanks for the help
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I have changed the tubing to red and the pump to a 355 + top, EK don't seem to do any non coloured water so I will have to get that from somewhere else, same goes for the gentle typhoons

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