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Sorry I knew I forgot something. The E350 or Atom 330 build looks pretty good. How does the 330 compare to the E-350? I have an x120e with the E-350 and it plays videos pretty smoothly. Thanks for all the input guys. I'll be repping all of you I really like that HTPC case since it's so slim.
The E-350 is much more powerful. It also runs on less watts and has better intergrated video. I believe the price is about the same for both as well.
    
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Case: Cooler Master Elite 360, $40
MB: Biostar A880G+, $55
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 255 3.1 GHz, $63
RAM: cheapest 1.5V 4GB DDR3 kit you can find, $40 (it's only like $10 diff going from 2GB to 4GB)
Remote: Logitech Harmony 300, $30 + MCE IR receiver, $5~10 (ebay)
TOTAL: $233~238

How does the E350 compare to this? I see that I have to buy a separate video card compared to the E350 which already has a GPU in it. The CPU seems a lot more powerful. 3.1 GHz compared to 1.6
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Case: Cooler Master Elite 360, $40
MB: Biostar A880G+, $55
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 255 3.1 GHz, $63
RAM: cheapest 1.5V 4GB DDR3 kit you can find, $40 (it's only like $10 diff going from 2GB to 4GB)
Remote: Logitech Harmony 300, $30 + MCE IR receiver, $5~10 (ebay)
TOTAL: $233~238

How does the E350 compare to this? I see that I have to buy a separate video card compared to the E350 which already has a GPU in it. The CPU seems a lot more powerful. 3.1 GHz compared to 1.6
You don't need to buy a separate video card. The 880G's HD 4200 graphics also does hardware decode acceleration of the usual suspects. Also, it's not just the clock rate. Clock for clock, the Athlon II X2 (heck, even an Athlon 64 X2) is faster than Zacate.

Zacate (E-350) has a better GPU (HD 6310) than the integrated HD 4200 on the 880G, however, I'd take the extra CPU power on Regor (Athlon II X2) anyday. It's easy to add a discrete GPU to the latter (Regor) in case you need a better GPU. With the former (Zacate), while it might have a better GPU, if you require even a smidgen of CPU power, you're going to have to replace the CPU and motherboard which ends up being more expensive.

As for HD Netflix, it's not a driver issue. It's about the Silverlight player lacking support for hardware decode acceleration and while Silverlight 5 (still in beta) adds GPU decode acceleration for H.264, it might not help at all with Netflix since it appears Netflix uses VC-1. Zacate just doesn't have the necessary CPU power for Netflix 720p. Even overclocked to 1.92 GHz, Zacate still falls short.

By the way, since you also need a PSU, I suggest going with the following:
COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKR1 with Thermal Master 350w Power Supply, $50

The PSU is nothing to write home about but it should be good enough to handle the above build even if you add up to an HD 6670 GPU. You also don't need the Harmony remote (a $30 expense). That was recommended for someone who wanted better integration with their HT equipment. With those changes, that should allow adding a 500GB~1TB HDD while keeping within your $250 max budget.
Edited by rui-no-onna - 5/15/11 at 10:14pm
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The E-350 is much more powerful. It also runs on less watts and has better intergrated video. I believe the price is about the same for both as well.
Sure the E-350's CPU is more powerful than a dual-core Atom but that's more like comparing a Pentium III at 700 MHz to a Pentium III at 1 GHz. The difference isn't really that significant. The HD 6310 is much better compared to the Intel GMA 3150, though. Zacate vs Atom/ION is more or less on par. Zacate is a bit faster but nothing to write home about. Besides, ION being the more mature platform, you don't get driver issues (such as Flash 10.2/Hulu acting wonky) like on Zacate. HOwever, for the same price as Atom/ION or Zacate, a microATX motherboard paired with an actual desktop CPU will give you much better performance (like 2~4x CPU power).
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It's going to be tough to get everything for under $200.. As you're probably seeing right now. I put mine together on a budget and without a HDD it was ~$300.. Of course I did splurge on the case.
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Umm i think this will fit your needs exactly http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.638451

and maybe even add in something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-922-_-Product for right around 260 total

-doober
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Are there any parts coming out in the next few months that will be cheaper/better for an HTPC? Will Llanos be a game-changer in the HTPC department? When would it ship and how much would it be when released? I read the release date is 6/14. Is that accurate?

I don't mind waiting at the moment since I am currently at home and not in my apartment where the HTPC will be used.
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Are there any parts coming out in the next few months that will be cheaper/better for an HTPC? Will Llanos be a game-changer in the HTPC department? When would it ship and how much would it be when released? I read the release date is 6/14. Is that accurate?

I don't mind waiting at the moment since I am currently at home and not in my apartment where the HTPC will be used.
Llano will mostly be a game-changer in the mobile space (you'd be able to get $500 laptops that can handle gaming relatively decently). On HTPC's, not so much unless you also use the HTPC for gaming or you want Blu-ray 3D.

However, $200 is just too small a budget unless you buy used or you have some parts you can re-use. What Llano will do is give you better performance for the same price. On the upside, it's possible it might cause some reduction in Athlon II prices as retailers clear out old stock.
  • MB+CPU: 880G+Athlon II X2 250 or H61/H67+Pentium G620, $100~120
  • RAM: 2GB, $20
  • HDD: 500GB~1TB $40 (you usually don't get free shipping below that)
  • Case+PSU: Cooler Master Elite 360 w/350W PSU, $50
  • TOTAL: $210~230
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Llano will mostly be a game-changer in the mobile space (you'd be able to get $500 laptops that can handle gaming relatively decently). On HTPC's, not so much unless you also use the HTPC for gaming or you want Blu-ray 3D.

However, $200 is just too small a budget unless you buy used or you have some parts you can re-use. What Llano will do is give you better performance for the same price. On the upside, it's possible it might cause some reduction in Athlon II prices as retailers clear out old stock.
  • MB+CPU: 880G+Athlon II X2 250 or H61/H67+Pentium G620, $100~120
  • RAM: 2GB, $20
  • HDD: 500GB~1TB $40 (you usually don't get free shipping below that)
  • Case+PSU: Cooler Master Elite 360 w/350W PSU, $50
  • TOTAL: $210~230
It would definitely be nice to be able to play games on it. I think I'm going to stalk the FS section and try to get some cheap used parts while waiting for Llano. Hopefully, I'll be able to get everything under 250.
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