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Part of the bleeding process involves rocking your case (even violently) back and forth and up and down to get all those bubbles out.

Does this cause major turning and twisting of barbs, and if so, can this cause a small or large leak in the next 1.5-2 years (or after approx. 3-5 drainings)?
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post #2 of 13
The point of doing all that shaking during bleeding is to catch the leaks now instead of months later.
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i dont even bleed my loop like that, all my rads are in a position which would force the air to go up towards the outlet/inlet. im pretty sure that you dont need to throw your case around. i do however tilt it to a 45* angle to get some air out
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I would not recommended rocking your case violently lol
with mine I just lay it on either side for a few mins. If everything is internal you shouldn't have to worry about barbs twisting, unless you really are shaking it violently
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post #5 of 13
Shaking and moving things certainly does introduce a lot of stress to the components, and is one way to find the obvious leaks and installation problems, but it does not necessarily indicate that your loop will never leak.

There are many things that can cause leaks, some of them are:

Installation errors
- fittings under or over tightened
- hose fitted incorrectly
- incompatible hose / fitting sizes
- no clamps used

Short term problems:
- thermal expansion
- vibrations / movement
- pressure

Long(er) term problems:
- Component deterioration, usually o-rings or tubing
- Improper maintenance
- Corrosion (mostly with mixed metal loops)
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post #6 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post
rocking your case (even violently)
Exactly which guide are you following that says to do this?

Id reccomend not shaking violently or your going to cause some damage there matey

Yes by all means you can tilt to aid the bubbles to flow out the rads etc,dont shake violently though
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Shaken PC syndrome is no bueno...
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Computers are like children. They can be quite frustrating, but after a while you learn to deal with them. And you can't shake them.
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Exactly which guide are you following that says to do this?

Id reccomend not shaking violently or your going to cause some damage there matey

Yes by all means you can tilt to aid the bubbles to flow out the rads etc,dont shake violently though
I heard about it a few times when putting my loop together. Point taken though, no violent shaking from now on, lol.

I bleed my loop using two ways:
  1. Putting a piece of cut tubing partially over the pump (I have a pump/res dual bay combo), and it gets rid of 90% of all the small bubbles in 2 minutes.
  2. Aggressively rocking, shaking, and tilting the case to get of the big bubbles in the rad.
If I stop number 2, will the big bubbles in the rad eventually come out?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post
Computers are like children. {snip}.... you can't shake them.
Really? Damn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post
{snip} If I stop number 2, will the big bubbles in the rad eventually come out?
Maybe, maybe not, depending on your rad's orientation.

Exchange violent shaking for gently tilting the case to allow the air to escape. Remember that the rad's flow path forms a U shape between the inlet and outlet barb, so try to tilt so that the air follows the direction of flow.

I also find that tapping on the rad with the handle of a screw driver or similar helps to shift some bubbles. I'm sure you are allowed to do that to children too.
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