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No amount of software engineering can fix stupidity.
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I guess you are not a Ron White fan. Its the title of his comedy album "You can't fix stupid."
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I would rather spend my time upgrading and building custom PC's than virus removal, but maybe thats just me.
Removing viruses is easy money though. Geek Squad charges 300 for a service that requires clicking on an .exe and watching it scan.
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Removing viruses is easy money though. Geek Squad charges 300 for a service that requires clicking on an .exe and watching it scan.
THIS.

MBAM works wonders, even with the most infected partitions. Got rid of like 23 different viruses in one go, including rogueware that was installed on teh old P4 my bro had.
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Same, and you fell for it. Ironic much?
Except I wasnt attacking the stats described in your current listed sigrig like what you were doing, but trying to examine what you mentioned when you referred to your experience with Vista.

As for the 780G causing you BSOD's on Vista, I'd like to remind you that XP was no different back when it started out. It too was pretty unstable until the second Service Pack, where Windows 7 is essentially Vista SP3.

Popular experience also states that most BSOD's occur with systems running third party chipsets, such as VIA or Nvidia, I have no experience with recent AMD chipsets as the last AMD system I somehow obtained was an Athlon 64 x2 on Nforce 4. It ran well with 7, not too many issues. Never bothered to try Vista on it as the BIOS died and caused the board to fail at POST.
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Except I wasnt attacking the stats described in your current listed sigrig like what you were doing, but trying to examine what you mentioned when you referred to your experience with Vista.

As for the 780G causing you BSOD's on Vista, I'd like to remind you that XP was no different back when it started out. It too was pretty unstable until the second Service Pack, where Windows 7 is essentially Vista SP3.

Popular experience also states that most BSOD's occur with systems running third party chipsets, such as VIA or Nvidia, I have no experience with recent AMD chipsets as the last AMD system I owned was an Athlon 64 x2 on Nforce 4. It ran well with 7, not too many issues. Never bothered to try Vista on it as the BIOS died and caused the board to fail at POST.
You assumed I was running a P4 on Vista, that's about as bad if not worse than what you describe. I never "attacked" your sig rig if you had bothered to read, you assumed I was running a P4 and that IT was a performance problem with me running Vista, when your rig states you're running a P3 on W7. I own a PIII rig myself still running rock solid on Win2K Pro as a rig for work, since it can't do anything else, I can focus on work and not playing games on it (except the odd Doom game occasionally).

I never said XP was perfect, you're assuming again. I was on Win2K Pro for a while until XP got a SP3, will do the same or something similar with Win7 (probably wait till around SP2). I never jump on a new OS like most here seem to, I wait for a good few Service Packs before I change, especially if it's Windows.

780G was AMD's own chipset, not some VIA/Nvidia crap. And Win 7 RC ran better on my Phenom rig than any revision of Vista ever did. Fact is, Vista was buggy and unstable, if it wasn't, there would be no Windows 7.
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I didn't assume you were on a P4 running Vista. It was a general statement pertaining to the history of Vista's bad reputation. Why so defense?
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none of this counts in stupidity
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I have to say, FakeAVs are just as prominent in Vista or 7 than XP. I honestly think the reason that W7 machines have less infections is because XP has been around longer, and the machines that run XP have been used longer than any Windows 7 or Vista machine.

I mean, the famous XP Anti-spyware is easily changed to Windows 7 Anti-spyware and they virtually do the exact same thing. It detects what OS you have and makes appropriate changes.

I remove numerous FakeAVs on machines weekly, sometimes topping 10 per week. Its ridiculous. But I would say its about a good 50% come in with XP. But again, I still follow through with my hypothesis. Vista and 7 haven't been around quite as long, period. Plus I fix older machines more often rather than newer ones.
    
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Mainly the fact that People weren't innovative and installed it on their Un-innovating Pentium 4 Netbursts.

These same people who called themselves computer experts, roaming around forums just like this, complaining about how their superoverclocked Pentium 4's were performing no better than Pentium 3's would on Vista.

While me, I had a completely different experience, first try of a firstgen Core 2 Duo on Vista. It was a match made in heaven.
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Your ignorance is showing.

It was an E6400 with 4Gigs of ram and an 8600GT. None of that fancy WD Black stuff, that's dual platter. Of course it would run like garbage and boot slow.

Single Platter's where it's at. Somehow, I picture you to be the type to install an OS on a multi platter drive and partition it, just cause you're "overwhelmed" by the total space of your WD-Green.
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I didn't assume you were on a P4 running Vista. It was a general statement pertaining to the history of Vista's bad reputation. Why so defense?
Because you were insinuating that

1. I was running Vista on a P4 (you quoted my comment)
2. That I was a self proclaimed "computer expert", which I never claimed to be. Ever, on this site, or any other.
3. I had installed Vista on a Green/low power drive, after I stated I ran it on a Black high-rpm drive. Maybe stop accusing people of doing things you made up in your head, then I won't get defensive.

Oh yeah, and the WORST case that happened to me when my PC got infected was when I ran AVG/MBAM and Spybot S&D. Some program picked up the ports through which the antivirus updated itself, disabled them and used them for itself. That was on Vista. Now I'm running nothing but XP and MBAM, and I have yet to get any sort of virus. The only reason XP is more likely to get infected is because it uses an ancient version of IE by default, which the Average Joe never updates, nor does the average 1337 self-proclaimed admin. The PCs in our local library for example, run XP with IE6, with no firewall or popup blocker, that's just begging to get it hacked. Like I said before, the only time this security statistic applies is for business customers, since Windows 7 is by default more up to date than XP, the security of people's PCs is still down to the end user and how they administer their PCs.
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Because you were insinuating that

1. I was running Vista on a P4 (you quoted my comment)
2. That I was a self proclaimed "computer expert", which I never claimed to be. Ever, on this site, or any other.
3. I had installed Vista on a Green/low power drive, after I stated I ran it on a Black high-rpm drive. Maybe stop accusing people of doing things you made up in your head, then I won't get defensive.

Oh yeah, and the WORST case that happened to me when my PC got infected was when I ran AVG/MBAM and Spybot S&D. Some program picked up the ports through which the antivirus updated itself, disabled them and used them for itself. That was on Vista. Now I'm running nothing but XP and MBAM, and I have yet to get any sort of virus. The only reason XP is more likely to get infected is because it uses an ancient version of IE by default, which the Average Joe never updates, nor does the average 1337 self-proclaimed admin. The PCs in our local library for example, run XP with IE6, with no firewall or popup blocker, that's just begging to get it hacked. Like I said before, the only time this security statistic applies is for business customers, since Windows 7 is by default more up to date than XP, the security of people's PCs is still down to the end user and how they administer their PCs.
And you think that couldn't happen on XP? If anything it would be EASIER for that to happen on Windows XP because thanks to UAC in Vista it does add an extra layer of basic security.
    
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