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In benchmarks it seemed that the 570 should be capable of 56 FPS in bad company 2 for example, but mine can droop down to 35 sometimes and usually stabilizes at around 45 in dense areas.
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Yes there is going to be a noticeable bottlneck in some cpu intensive games

Do you have it overclocked at all?
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In benchmarks it seemed that the 570 should be capable of 56 FPS in bad company 2 for example, but mine can droop down to 35 sometimes and usually stabilizes at around 45 in dense areas.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e,2806-11.html

That was with a 980x, differences could be in how/where they tested FPS but still it looks to be quite a big difference.
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Yes there is going to be a noticeable bottlneck in some cpu intensive games

Do you have it overclocked at all?
Nah. What counts as a CPU-intensive game?
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Try unlocking it, maybe it's a lucky chip and will turn into Phenom II. If that's the case is possible to overclock it to 4.0 GHz.
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I'm kind of afraid to overclock because my motherboard is notorious for having an unstable VRM apparently. When does bulldozer come out again? I guess I should've researched more before going out and purchasing a $300 graphics card.
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Try unlocking it, maybe it's a lucky chip and will turn into Phenom II. If that's the case is possible to overclock it to 4.0 GHz.
That won't happen, if he unlocks, it'll be unstable due to the cache and won't reach very high OC most likely, even without an unlock, 3.6-3.7 is much more a feasible OC. Not everyone can hit 4GHz.

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I'm kind of afraid to overclock because my motherboard is notorious for having an unstable VRM apparently. When does bulldozer come out again? I guess I should've researched more before going out and purchasing a $300 graphics card.
It's good that you're taking it safe, however if you added some Enzotech's to your MOSFET's and maybe point a fan in their direction, there's no reason you can't get up to maybe 3.5GHz, assuming your chip doesn't require more than 1.40v-ish to do so. Upping the NB to 2.4 with a 3.4GHz OC on the cores will probably give you a better performance increase though.

If you want exact details, give xd_1771 or reflex99 a PM, I'm sure they'll be glad to give you more details on just how high you can realistically push that board with some added cooling.
They've compiled some great information on AMD Motherboard's and their MOSFETs. :http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...ence-list.html

Don't ever regret your GPU purchase either, I'll probably never realistically get anything better than a 560Ti, you've got the biggest impact on gameplay out the way essentially, the rest is minor.
 
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That won't happen, if he unlocks, it'll be unstable due to the cache and won't reach very high OC most likely, even without an unlock, 3.6-3.7 is much more a feasible OC. Not everyone can hit 4GHz.
Not everyone(you are one of this group), but there are several users here with unlocked cores @4GHz, so why not a chip with all four cores fully functional, just weak l3 would be able to hit 4GHz?

To the op
Anyway, I didn't notice it was an MSI board. Yes, do not overclok it, just unlock the l3.
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In benchmarks it seemed that the 570 should be capable of 56 FPS in bad company 2 for example, but mine can droop down to 35 sometimes and usually stabilizes at around 45 in dense areas.
Download MSI afterburner...

then enable the OSD with the GPU usage...

if it is at 95-100% in the areas that you have low FPS your CPU won't b bottlenecking you

if it is lower then that.. let us know...
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Nah. What counts as a CPU-intensive game?
BFBC2, Crysis, GTAIV and Prototype are games I know to require fairly significant CPU power to get high framerates. I've heard Black Ops takes a fair amount as well but don't 'know it' for a fact.

BFBC2 is definitely the 'biggie' ATM. It doesn't help that it also has GPU usage issues when you play it online.

However, when you have a CPU BN, it means that you should turn up the settings more on the gfx card. You might as well, right?
    
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