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The TF is much lighter and has a better screen, I have tried both of them and the TF is just much more smooth.

Also why is everyone talking about windows 7? The TF does not have windows 7, that is an entirely different tablet. All Asus TF tablets have android.
Because the Iconia W500 runs off Windows 7 (in the OP, the original question was between the Iconia and the Transformer, but I bumped it asking more about the iconia, as I'd prefer a full-fledged Windows tablet).

I guess I really need to take the time and head over to somewhere like Fry's and play with all of them to see how they feel. Still leaning toward the windows one(s) though.
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The TF is much lighter and has a better screen, I have tried both of them and the TF is just much more smooth.

Also why is everyone talking about windows 7? The TF does not have windows 7, that is an entirely different tablet. All Asus TF tablets have android.
Because the W500 can do most everything you do on a Windows PC. Where as you would have to find some 3rd party software to either convert the files or simulate the experience with limitation on any Android tab. The W500 will also stream Netflix, Amazon instant video in 720p HD and from most major TV Networks. It will also play pretty much any video format without needing conversion like AVI, mpeg, mov, mp4, 720p/1080p mkv, RMVB and DVD ISO. It's a much more powerful media player. Full size SD slot mean you can increase internal storage with 64GB/128GB SD cards.
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Because the W500 can do most everything you do on a Windows PC. Where as you would have to find some 3rd party software to either convert the files or simulate the experience with limitation on any Android tab. The W500 will also stream Netflix, Amazon instant video in 720p HD and from most major TV Networks. It will also play pretty much any video format without needing conversion like AVI, mpeg, mov, mp4, 720p/1080p mkv, RMVB and DVD ISO. It's a much more powerful media player. Full size SD slot mean you can increase internal storage with 64GB/128GB SD cards.
Yes you don't need to list 50 differant formats. I know you can install media player classic and CCCP to play virtually any file you want. The problem is that that power comes at a price of battery life.

Do you want a talbet that can do everything needlessly and only last 4 hours? Or do you want a talblet that weighs twice less and lasts 9.5 hours?

There are plenty of netbooks with the same specs as this tablet for cheaper and I know for a fact that that the Asus TF can play 720p blu ray rips and I have little doubt that there are apps for netflix and amazon.

You also don't need to convert anything, the TF can play mkv files perfectly, thats what my buddy was playing on his TF. There are a variety of video players just like on windows.
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I am mostly happy with my TF. I got the docking station and tablet and like it so far. The only thing missing is support for real java. =/

Thankfully, most of the PnP RPG gaming I do uses either spreadsheets (Polaris), GCS (java, but exports to HTML or PDF) and or PDF files. So I can still do that just fine and won't need to drag my hefty old gaming laptop.

I just thought I'd point that out since it does bother me some. I am happy with the battery life so far though -- listened to music for about 5 hours today and its still at 96%+ life. =)
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Yes you don't need to list 50 differant formats. I know you can install media player classic and CCCP to play virtually any file you want. The problem is that that power comes at a price of battery life.

Do you want a talbet that can do everything needlessly and only last 4 hours? Or do you want a talblet that weighs twice less and lasts 9.5 hours?

There are plenty of netbooks with the same specs as this tablet for cheaper and I know for a fact that that the Asus TF can play 720p blu ray rips and I have little doubt that there are apps for netflix and amazon.

You also don't need to convert anything, the TF can play mkv files perfectly, thats what my buddy was playing on his TF. There are a variety of video players just like on windows.
Good luck trying to get 720p mkv to play on any of the Tegra 2 based Android tab. I was given both the Acer A500 (same as Xoom) and the W500 to try out before release. I had high hope for the Android tab as it is lighter (but not 1/2 the weight, more like 2.2lbs vs 1.6lbs) and the longer battery life. But it turns out that the Tegra 2 cannot handle 720p mkv and since I also watch a lot of foreign language video in RMVB format (which won't play on the Tegra 2 either). I have no choice but to go for the W500. I was a bit worried about the lower battery life but it turns out that I'm never away from AC power for more than a few hours at a time so 4 hours of video or 6 hours of browsing works just fine for me.
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Yes you don't need to list 50 differant formats. I know you can install media player classic and CCCP to play virtually any file you want. The problem is that that power comes at a price of battery life.

Do you want a talbet that can do everything needlessly and only last 4 hours? Or do you want a talblet that weighs twice less and lasts 9.5 hours?

There are plenty of netbooks with the same specs as this tablet for cheaper and I know for a fact that that the Asus TF can play 720p blu ray rips and I have little doubt that there are apps for netflix and amazon.

You also don't need to convert anything, the TF can play mkv files perfectly, thats what my buddy was playing on his TF. There are a variety of video players just like on windows.
No official netflix app for (most) androids.

I'm still skeptical about the transformer (or even the honeycomb iconia) playing "standard" video files (i.e. .avi files with standard divx or xvid encoding). I'm not a HD whore, so I'm not too concerned about it playing HD, and I can always toggle non-hd if I'm watching streaming video.

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Good luck trying to get 720p mkv to play on any of the Tegra 2 based Android tab. I was given both the Acer A500 (same as Xoom) and the W500 to try out before release. I had high hope for the Android tab as it is lighter (but not 1/2 the weight, more like 2.2lbs vs 1.6lbs) and the longer battery life. But it turns out that the Tegra 2 cannot handle 720p mkv and since I do watch a lot of foreign language video in RMVB format (which won't play on the Tegra 2 either). I have no choice but to go for the W500. I was a bit worried about the lower battery life but it turns out that I'm never away from AC power for more than a few hours at a time so 4 hours of video or 6 hours of browsing works just fine for me.
What version of Android was the A500 running?

I'm worried that one of my primary things for the tablet is going to be movie-watching on longer business trips (like international flights), so I'm worried that the 4hrs of movie-watching is going to be a tough thing to live with. I am still not convinced that android for a tab is for me though, and I am still leaning toward a w7 tab.
    
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I have access to the A500 anytime I want and I've been keeping an eye on it to see if later version of Honeycomb improves video playback. The last version that I tried a couple weeks ago is 3.1 i think.

As of international flights. Yea you would probably want more than 4 hours of video but usually you can find something worth watching on the in-flight entertainment system nowadays (at least enough to bridge the gap).
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Honestly, there are more than enough media players in the Android Market to handle playback for whatever video files you may come across. The answer really lies in the context in which the device will be used. If you really need the "power" of a Windows system, you could always leverage the Splashtop application on the Transformer, given that you have an adequate wireless connection.
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Honestly, there are more than enough media players in the Android Market to handle playback for whatever video files you may come across. The answer really lies in the context in which the device will be used. If you really need the "power" of a Windows system, you could always leverage the Splashtop application on the Transformer, given that you have an adequate wireless connection.
True, it depends on what will be done with it.

In my opinion, I think I'd LIKE for it to lean more toward a netbook in terms of capabilities (low-end computing needs), and less toward a personal media device. But I think I feel that way because of the "just in case" scenario, where I might NEED something like that.

The issue I have with android media players--at least for the Android 2.2+ (haven't used the honeycomb OS yet) is that while there are a variety of media players to suit needs, there isn't often a one-size-fits-all option. Actually, that kinda describes the Android market in general. Lots of stuff that you could probably find to do something you need done, but then you have to worry about a ton of 3rd party apps and widgets. For that reason, I like the windows option better.

Still mulling it over...
    
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^ Why not try a Honeycomb device first? Honestly it feels like a scaled-down desktop OS with lots of options to play with.
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